@blacklight447 @Tutanota I just want a secure Android phone. I don’t care who writes it. I am concerned what happens to Graphene if Daniel stops working on it. Does it have enough developers to support it? It seems Copperhead has actual employees, so might be able to support the product while surviving the loss of any one person. Honestly I just wish they’d quit bickering and just focus on their individual projects. I don’t think they compete for customers, given people can’t download Copperhead