@supernova wouldnt take "epheremal messages" as anything serious.
nothing stops the other party from making a screen or taking a picture of the screen, its security snakeoil.
all i could help with is keeping your phone clean, and being sure that the chat is gone on your own device in the case it gets seized at a later point in time. Also you need to make sure it gets propperly scrubbed instead of just being "deleted" in the tradional meaning.

@blacklight447 Also ephemerality in a properly designed system gives you some control over persistence of the data on other devices not in your control. I would disagree to call it snake oil.

@supernova it is snake oil, once it leaves your device, its out of your controll, how do you know the other party uses a modifed client that doesnt delete the message or exports everything, how do we know the other party hasnt made a screenshot or taken a picture of the message? Ephermal messages should only be used for data hygiene on your own device, if you cannot trust the other party, ephermal messages wont help you.

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