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@rysiek @seven Mandated training would be overly imposing, but I do think the system should build-in an incentive for product makers to publish service manuals at product EOL time, perhaps in the form of carbon credits. The more a company does to facilitate longevity of their products, the lower their effective carbon footprint is.

@ReadSieg @tuxicoman By comparison, we might imagine that a casino without FR would be sunk by cheaters, and the business might even be unsustainable without FR. In that case, I'm not so fast to condemn FR. Just an example.. I'm not really sure if FR is essential to a casino's survival.

@tuxicoman @ReadSieg The way I see it, shoplifters are not a threat to Lowe's staying in business, so it's non-essential for Lowe's to use FR. They are using FR to boost profits, and they are probably using it to the extent that ReadSieg conjectures. As consumers, we should . It's the one way to counter the profit-driven incentive to track people.

@ReadSieg @tuxicoman I'm sure that's happening, but I should mention after some digging into this that has answered tuxicoman's question. They say it's to deal with shoplifting. I'm sure the real reason is much more than that but that's Lowe's official reason.

@seven @rysiek you seem to be conflating training with code disclosure. If Jeep decides to stop maintaining their software, they no longer need the /all rights reserved/ incentive to create the creative works. Copyright was effectively too long, and should be cut short.

It's occurred to me that the reason is such an unshakable trend is marketers are fully exploiting the concept of . ignitevisibility.com/social-pr They have mastered this approach to manipulate people. Everything they do is to leverage social proof.

@rysiek i think we need to distinguish a body of principles from a bill that lawmakers would sign. You wouldn't want FSF principles to have just freedom 0 and freedom 1, but neglect freedom 2 and freedom 3. The principles completely embody all needs of that paradigm. Sure the bills given to lawmakers might have to be broken into smaller pieces b/c they're afraid of large changes.

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@rysiek If TomTom stops selling maps or Roku or Wii stops their online svc, you're fucked & yet article 1-5 miss this. A that leaves someone w/a proprietary box doesn't go far enough if it only gives legal rights & not tech means. I don't just want TomTom to allow fiddling w/their old box- I want TomTom to release the SDK & src code when it decides it's EOL.

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@rysiek If TomTom stops selling maps or Roku or Wii stops their online svc, you're fucked & yet article 1-5 miss this. A that leaves someone w/a proprietary box doesn't go far enough if it only gives legal rights & not tech means. I don't just want TomTom to allow fiddling w/their old box- I want TomTom to release the SDK & src code when it decides it's EOL.

@rysiek i find the statement of principles quite lacking. Suppose you buy a thermostat that is programmed to only function when getting instructions from honeywell's server. Honeywell decides to pull the plug on the server, & all thermostats become useless. None of the 5 articles cover that.

@dachary @aw Stats show that putting your project on MS *reduces* participation: infosec.exchange/@bojkotiMalbo Also, there is chatter about shaming Github projects in the Directory, and I hope it reaches that point.

@Br0m3x indeed. The bigger story should not be that data was leaked, but that warnings were ignored. The classic "we trust those who hold these tools". It was clear that was a loose cannon with just a matter of time before disaster struck.

@eff don't do it. Surely there must be better digital rights orgs to donate to.

@clacke @otso @modrobert yeah, indeed. They use SSL over onion not for crypto, but for verification purposes. So it must be HTTPS, and then you must accept the cert.

@clacke @otso @modrobert What's the error message when you try sercxi.eu.org over clearnet?

BTW, it's rather revolting that wrote a 23-page report on , but then they deny access to the report unless you supply them with an email address through their site. So in order to read about privacy abuses, you must allow them to invade your privacy.

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