@aktivismoEstasMiaLuo in the 90s I was told by a prof: "#Javascript is designed with security from the ground up to ensure the j/s can't access any sensitive local resources" -- was that naive, or has javascript changed to have a longer leash?
@crazydeepgrowth AFAIK, no printer maker guarantees their printers not to have tracker dots (regardless of OS). A few admit to having tracker dots, and a vast majority were caught producing tracker dots. I've not heard of any monotone printers that have tracker dots. Most printer makers have lots of ethical issues, but the lesser of evils seems to be Oki. I would consider a b&w Oki laser.
@shiro surely you must have a problem with a CloudFlare site masquerading as a "#saveinternetfreedom" site. That petition needs to be relocated to a place that not hosted by the adversaries of Internet freedom.
@gemlog @Mayana I boycott #google translate not just b/c of Google's evils, but I wrote a program that will take a scanned doc, OCR it, convert to #LaTeX in two columns, one in the original language the other in English, which scraped the translation from Google. Google later blocked my bot & broke my tool and pissed all over my effort.
@lanodan The chatroom is in a place that requires login via gitlab.com, github.com, or Twitter (https://gitter.im/ungoogled-software/Lobby) all of which are exclusive walled gardens. There is a matrix.org gateway into #Gitter, but I believe #CloudFlare is in the loop.
@Horizon_Innovations they had enough sense to create a #codeberg mirror (https://codeberg.org/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium), but /issues/ redirects to MS #Github, so the conversation is still confined to a walled garden & outsiders are suppressed.
@Horizon_Innovations no, not a security matter. Chromium has hard-coded the time-out limit. Some websites exceed the time limit when accessed over Tor. It's been reported upstream yrs ago but Google doesn't give a shit. If #UngoogledChromium were to fix this bug it would create another reason for users to switch from stock #Chromium to UC.
I can't (won't) report a bug in Ungoogled Chromium b/c they're exclusively in #Github. Every single #ungoogledChromium community is trapped in a walledgarden. WTF.
@eff if they demand that you use Facebook, Whatsapp, or Signal, they're pushing you to make a compromise that you're not imposing on them. That's not balance.
@nikolal @supernova @marc0janssen it's the other way around. It's your friends who don't value you if they refuse to contact you using your chosen app of higher ethical and privacy standards.
@nikolal @marc0janssen being ethical entails patronizing the competitors of the least ethical suppliers. You're just making excuses to feed your greed.
@marc0janssen @nikolal this is just another recycling of the claim "being ethical is impossible". It's total horseshit.
@nikolal @marc0janssen you don't have to "live in a cave", you just have to spend a bit more.. sometimes double. Ethics isn't free but if you're going to put greed above it then you're not living ethically
@marc0janssen @nikolal to equate giving up Amazon with "living in a cave" is to put material goods above the environment
@marc0janssen @nikolal if you're willing to patronize Amazon, then you're not really being environmentally responsible.
@marc0janssen @nikolal you can choose to be unethical, but you should acknowledge it. The "all companies are evil so no need to boycott" pov is your excuse to not participate in ethical consumption
@marc0janssen @nikolal is in effect, you're saying there is no variation in evil.. that it's just as wrong to support a company that uses disposable plates in their kitchen as a company that pollutes and digs for fossil fuels
@nikolal @marc0janssen if you study what these companies do, their impact on the world is nowhere near equal.
@marc0janssen @nikolal are you saying all suppliers are /equally/ evil?