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@Tutanota After Electronmail drops Tutanota, desktop users will be forced to trust on-the-fly j/s in a transaction where Tutanota potentially knows who is signing on before shipping j/s. That's far from the goal of being the "most secure email service".

@Tutanota article said "Tutanota pays attention to seemingly little details, such as not using third-party code"

The thing is, Tutanota is just as much a 3rd party to users as anyone else. The f-droid app is a great thing, but what about desktop users, who will be S.O.L after Electronmail drops Tutanota support?

@hyperlinkyourheart Indeed the bot is not sophisticated enough to see that the link was a webshop & then find a replacement shop selling the same thing. Most links posted don't require users to submit info. Yet the bot is still useful to the extent that readers are warned not to visit that link.

To complicate matters, the codeberg repo was attacked by anti-tor ppl & the bot is still sending ppl a bad link for dirt on CloudFlare.

@cloudflarelink

@kemonine An archive page is not good at moving information the other direction, so users are less inclined to fill forms and do HTTP PUT ops. As for HTTP GET, CF doesn't see or track who reads archive.org, who is less of a threat precisely because of its smaller scale as well as the traffic being mostly one directional. Archive.org also does not treat users with hostility, thus not driving ppl off Tor.

@kemonine "scale" is a big part of the problem with CloudFlare, who has over 10% of the web into the restricted walled-garden of one single corporate power with access to enough sensitive traffic all in one place to make every spy org in the world salivate.

You say "expertise"; I say "incompetence". No service of this kind is as poor at separating attack traffic from legitimate traffic as CloudFlare. No one is even close to their level of collateral damage.

@fshadow Sure, and is notoriously incompetent at making that separation. A botnet can simply use Selenium to instrument TB to do its dirty work, whilst *copious* legitimate users are DoS'd or abused.

@cloudflarelink @TheFuzzStone

@kemonine The bot doesn't care about you personally. It's doing a public service for your readers, who you otherwise sent into a -hostile -abusive walled-garden. It's to protect them so they are warned and have a trustworthy link to follow.

@cloudflarelink

@hhardy01 If a CloudFlare site does not survive, that's a /good thing/. CloudFlare's exclusive walled-garden of privacy and net neutrality abuse needs to shrink.

@cloudflarelink

@fshadow That's not good enough. CloudFlare shouldn't be dictating to users which browsers they can use.

@cloudflarelink @TheFuzzStone

@vease That bot was essentially saying that soundcloud is in CloudFlare's walled-garden of -hostile privacy abuse. As a Tor user, when I follow your link I get a page saying "Sorry! Something went wrong. Is your network connection unstable or browser outdated?" because CloudFlare treats Tor users with hostility. I don't know what to recommend for filesharing your music but you might want to look at other options.

@cloudflarelink

@Gina Fairphone uses a (CloudFlare) for its support pages. CF blocks users. A whole book could be written on the evils of CloudFlare, but to be brief I'll say it's quite ironic & bizarre that an ethics-focused project like Fairphone would jail any of their websites in CF.

@cloudflarelink

@fukurouyoujo @cloudflarelink and to answer your question that was a bot that automatically detects cloudflare links

@fukurouyoujo @cloudflarelink your redbubble link is in cloudflare's restricted part of the web where some ppl are denied access. It's like posting a facebook link outside of facebook.. it's not open to all. Specifically, Tor users can't visit your link. Also, there is an eavesdropper who sees all packets to and from redbubble even if it's HTTPS, so it's not secure.

@Draconicrose @cloudflarelink strictly speaking your original link was fine, but the "support" link on that page is jailed in , so the whole domain got black-balled.

@mu @cloudflarelink Sorry, correction, actually it turns out you are in CloudFlare's walled-garden, as inditoot.com is is in CF. But your toots are not contained.. they make it outside CF's jail where some ppl cannot interact with them.

@mu @cloudflarelink Obviously you think politics drove the msg, but not as you know it. Brietbart happens to be an extreme right propaganda machine but the issue you were called on was not the nutty shit from that site but rather sharing a CloudFlared link with those outside of CloudFlare's . The blocking is done by CF. You need to ask Breitbart to stop using CloudFlare.

@cloudflarelink @jeffcliff@niu.moe Perhaps if a node admin lacks the balls, the bot could still run in a local capacity for that node. But ideally it needs to run on a node with a pair of balls.

@cloudflarelink @jeffcliff@niu.moe all good points Jeff. Although it's worth considering one solution to that issue: if the bot only acts on local msgs for that particular node, then there is no risk of defederating.

@rms ..and to avoid supporting private prisons, be sure to banks that invest in them (Bank of America, 5/3rd, JP Morgan Chase, PNC, Suntrust, US Bank, & Wells Fargo)

@kezzbracey@linuxrocks.online @unklebonehead If you're willing to pay, there is impurva incapsula and perimeterX.

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