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just like censors people in IRC who criticize in , there are also ops in -offtopic who censor those who disclose the fact that Tor Project is silently removing information that's critical of from their website.

@resist1984 Cloudflare is hostile to Tor. Why is Tor removing Cloudflare-critical information?

@josias We can only guess. It's almost as if some backroom deal was struck between Tor Project & CF. We know that Tor Project has contempt for those who use browsers other than Tor Browser over Tor, & that CF sites tend not to CAPTCHA Tor Browser but all other browsers are attacked when used over Tor. So it looks like a quid pro quo. But I must say that's just purely my speculation.

@josias Bruce Schneier is (or was) on the Tor Project board, and I've found him to be a sellout in other situations, so I wouldn't be surprized if he has a hand in Tor Project not treating as an adversary to their mission.

@josias Regardless of what pressures to treat unlike an adversary, the Tor-using public should certainly consider Cloudflare an adversary. And we can't turn to because Bruce Schneier is on that board as well, and the two projects both downplay Cloudflare's impact on those who superficially embrace the same principles at a high level.

@josias I would like to find a reputable privacy organization that firmly recognizes as an adversary to their cause.

@resist1984 This is amazing, thanks for sharing this information, I hope this gets sorted out

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Once I posted than irony is that even so called #privacy and #cybersecurity oriented entities use MitM Cloudflare.

In my opinion average internet user needs to receive simple message.

Green padlock in your browser is an illusion if you use Cloudflare or similar actors. Web browser should alarm you about that.

*Why doesn't web browser alarm: 'there is a man in the middle attack, do you accept this connection'?*

Free internet is dying or died already.

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