It's a sign of the times that Uxn users on Lines have been putting in a lot of effort to figure out whether they are permitted by Apple to run a lightweight 8-bit VM without network access or piracy applications on hardware they own.

It is possible to have devices which are safe for most users to operate and yet can run software not approved by the manufacturer. Apple is simply choosing not to allow the latter for business reasons.

In some ways, it is true that this is because it's what "users want" - but at the same time, the two options right now are "cohesive ecosystem with a good image and lots of marketing about security, but low freedom" and, well, Android.

Of course most people will choose what they see as secure but limited over what they see as insecure and low-class. Apple has cultivated and image and ideology that puts them on top no matter what they do.

See, for example, the _very recent_ Twitter megathread about "blue bubble/green bubble", which included many people saying, without irony, that they would intentionally exclude non-iOS users from their social circles.

And, to be clear, I'm not saying that people are wrong for choosing iOS over Android or vice versa. People choose the tools they need to solve their problems and we must, as an axiom, be committed to not shaming them for that. In OS, in hardware platform, in software of choice.

I say this, by the way, because there is a persistent meme in the Fediverse memeplex that says "if you use FOSS made by bad people, you are a bad person". We all use proprietary stuff made by bad people; this is an unfortunate double standard.

@kensanata @tindall It's unclear to me how it's good for activism to toss out public shaming as a means to improve behavior.

@resist1984 @kensanata it's not good activism to be angry at people who can't change anything, especially over things that have a minimal impact. I don't care if you use a Macbook to make posters for your community organizing and I don't care if you use Pleroma to get a bunch of your friends together to protest the pipeline.

@resist1984 @kensanata I think we should be very clear about what the problems are with our software and our hardware, as much as we are with other systems we participate in, but for many people the option is "use the tools you're used to or spend a year rebuilding all your skills". That's certainly true for me; if I had to move on from Vim or Ubuntu for some reason I'd be useless for months. That happened when I was learning Mac OS for my dayjob.

@tindall @kensanata When you talk about communication tools, choices *do* have impact. Digital tools are inherently political. Some people are being marginalized by bad tools. I am non-stop shaming politicians for using #Twitter to microblog exclusively, in a way that denies a voice to those who can't or won't supply a mobile phone number to twitter.

@kensanata @tindall and it's not just politicans. Whenever you're talking about communication means, friends are limited by what their friends have. Choices are not made in a vaccuum in that case.

@resist1984 @kensanata Yeah, I actually agree with this completely - but Twitter is not really a "tool" in the way, say, Firefox or a Macbook is. Me using Firefox doesn't prevent other people using, say, Chrome or Edge from accessing my stuff. Even using Word or Adobe Acrobat doesn't stop people from accessing what I make as long as I share it in an open format.

@tindall @kensanata To measure whether a battle is worth fighting comes down to how the user choice affects others. If a massive proportion of market share goes to Chromium, then webmasters cater for Chromium and it's harmful to the free world to the extent that users of freedom-privacy-respecting browsers get marginalized as a result.

@kensanata @tindall I bought an appliance that required accessing the maker's website in order to enter a reg code to get back an access code. It worked at the time of purchase, but then years later the mfr made changes to the site probably to cater for Chromium users, and I could no loger use the device I bought. And it was outside of the warranty. So even browser choice can impact at scale.

@resist1984 @kensanata I absolutely agree - but I don't think shaming people for using WebKit-based browsers is the most effective way to shift those people to other platforms. Most people are using the tools they use not merely out of inertia but because they have an affirmative need for those tools, for some reason.

@tindall @kensanata i don't tend to shame people in one-on-one encounters, because that's just influencing one person at most. When I publicly shame someone, changing that one person would be a short-sighted goal. It's more to pursuay bystanders. The more bystanders, the better, not because it increases the embarrassment, but because each bystander is an opportunity to influence.

@kensanata @tindall IOW, the person targetted for shame is just a prop.

@resist1984 don't forget that there is a significant proportion of people out there who find the exact approach you're describing to be hostile & distasteful and who will subsequently focus on disliking YOU and possibly your message as well. using "shame" as a social engineering tool is highly prone to backfiring. @kensanata @tindall

@deutrino @tindall @kensanata there's no shame in shaming unethical conduct. It's your ethical duty in fact. "Activism is my duty for living on this planet." -- Alice Walker. The state of things has gotten where it is due to apathy, which is a barrier to progress.