"AI is emitting secrets"
https://twitter.com/pkell7/status/1411058236321681414?s=19
To be fair, you should never be committing secrets into your public repository. That said, I've heard nothing but bad news about #copilot
I think I'm gonna move to #sourcehut today
@zstix Just that the guy between sourcehut is known to be kind of a dick though, so I'd never move there personally.
I have mixed feeling on this.
On one hand, I don't think it's fair to base a program on it's programmer. Personally, I've found sourcehut to be absolutely amazing, to the point where I felt bad using it without paying for it.
On the other hand though... yeah. He's ddevault is an asshole, almost unbearably so at times. Though I can also understand it. He gets snappy about things he's passionate about, just like I do. So I can't hold it against him.
@Phate6660 @zstix Yes, and no, of course he's free to treat people as he wants to. But if you don't think it's fair to base a program on it's programmer there should be nothing against using microsoft, apple and google stuff.
Being snappy is one thing, calling people worthless and telling them to commit suicide because they hold a different opinion than them is not something I can support.
@sotolf @Phate6660 @alexbuzzbee oh wow, I wasn't aware of just how bad his comments were. I've heard he had been a bit of a jerk, but I hadn't actually heard about the content.
That's enough to convince me to look elsewhere. It would feel silly to move from GitHub (because of poor ownership choices) to source hut.
@zstix @sotolf @Phate6660 I'm thinking someone should run another public sourcehut instance so people can not support him while still using the pretty good software.
@alexbuzzbee @zstix @Phate6660 You'd still be supporting him by using his code though, I don't know, as I've gotten to know more about the guy I've been really resistant to wanting to have anything to do with things that he has made.
@sotolf @alexbuzzbee @zstix @Phate6660
I don't think FOSS has to be boycotted in the same way proprietary software has to be. With GitHub, you are forced to be under Microsoft's authority to use it. FOSS is different since it puts those who use it in control (in most cases).
@josias @sotolf @alexbuzzbee @Phate6660 Good point (and article). I like that you wrote that _before_ this whole #copilot thing - your head is in the right place.
I think I'll probably end up self-hosting a solution myself.
@zstix @Phate6660 @alexbuzzbee @sotolf @josias There are *lots* of forges out there, so indeed there is competition among the FOSS options: https://git.sdf.org/humanacollaborator/humanacollabora/src/branch/master/forge_comparison.md
@zstix @Phate6660 @alexbuzzbee @sotolf @josias E.g. I boycott #LinuxMint because the docs have become jailed on a #Cloudflare site. So I don't install #Mint for myself or others because putting the docs in a walled garden is a destructive trend. We can influence this by taking the trend in a better direction by choosing a distro other than Mint.
@resist1984
Yes, I understand that. But what is your reasoning behind boycotting the particular app? There are valid reasons for boycotting the infrastructure behind a project or avoiding it pragmatically.
I believe boycotting Mint (as you mention) may be a good idea if you vehemently want to avoid anything behind Cloudflare. This is a perfect example of a situation in which power is shifted against those who use the software.
My argument refers to blanket boycotts relating to those who made the software, avoiding certain people or entities. It doesn't make sense to boycott anything made by Richard Stallman or Drew DeVault solely because they wrote the code.
@josias @zstix @Phate6660 @alexbuzzbee @sotolf that makes sense for the most part. I've encountered scumbags who refuse obvious bug reports for bogus reasons and even suppressed bug reports (even security bugs), but in the end if I opt to boycott the app it's not because an asshole works on it but rather because the quality of the app is impacted by the decisions the asshole makes.
@sotolf @alexbuzzbee @Phate6660 @zstix @josias If they just have a lousy charactor that's not detrimental to the project, then there's no sense in boycotting
@josias @sotolf @alexbuzzbee @Phate6660 @zstix If you boycott a FOSS tool or platform, that's not a boycott on FOSS. It's a boycott on a particular app. From there, you can choose to give support to a competing FOSS option that is more deserving, or you can fork it to pull the code out of whatever toxic place it's in.