@resist1984 oh, also most of mobile phone carriers IIRC
@resist1984 in Germany: For cheap cable contracts.
@resist1984 Any LTE connected device in Austria AFAIK
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A lot of mobile ISPs around the world, also Fastweb (fibre to the home ISP) in Italy.
@resist1984 this is the default for major Philippine telcos, e.g., PLDT, Globe, Converge, SkyCable
@resist1984 the default option with basically every ISP in Russia
@resist1984 Default for every ISP in Spain as well, AFAIK.
@mbernabe @wolf480pl @thomas @phel @tdemin @carstenraddatz_fca I really appreciate all your feedback. I'm trying to get an idea of #Cloudflare's impact beyond Tor & apparently ppl in Russia, Serbia, Poland, Germany, Austria, Italy, Spain, Philippines, & India all must be getting CAPTCHA at an unbearable frequency due to #CGNAT, correct?
@carstenraddatz_fca @tdemin @phel @thomas @wolf480pl @mbernabe I can see how Cloudflare can get away with marginalizing a small group of Tor users, but I'm baffled that CF is able to marginalize all these users behind CGNAT. I wonder if the CF firewall only kicks in on a shared IP if someone in that group runs a bot.
@resist1984 @mbernabe @thomas @phel @tdemin @carstenraddatz_fca nope, I haven't experienced any cloudflare captchas from behind CGNAT
@wolf480pl @resist1984 @mbernabe @thomas @tdemin @carstenraddatz_fca Me neither, I don't recall ever seeing a Cloudflare captcha, although most of my surfing happens behind GCNAT...
@phel @carstenraddatz_fca @tdemin @thomas @mbernabe @wolf480pl I've heard someone complain that they get #Cloudflare CAPTCHAs all over the place b/c of being behind CGNAT, so I assumed it was everyone. Perhaps it only happens if someone in your IP pool runs a bot on CF sites. It would be interesting to have some statistics on this.
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or maybe they look at some IP blacklists (dnsbl and the like)
@resist1984 @mbernabe @wolf480pl @thomas @phel @carstenraddatz_fca heavily depends on the ISP, with home ISPs — never, with mobile ISPs — rarely (MegaFon — sometimes, others — same as home)
@resist1984 Not really. I rarely get captchas and usually it's reCAPTCHA not CF's.
@norm where is here? Is that California? I know there is a Starlink ISP in LA area but brands are sometimes copied.
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in Poland:
- small local WISPs, including those that have switched from WiFi to fiber
- DS-Lite from large ISPs (eg. UPC). You can ask them to switch you back to IPv4 and then you get a public IPv4 but you lose your IPv6