When an online merchant accepts or credit card, is Paypal still in the loop if credit card is used? I ask because I , & wonder if I should also avoid using a CC at PP-accepting merchants.

@resist1984 Well, if you going that far, maybe consider #boycottFiat? Some stores use payment processors like CoinGate, CoinPayments, OpenNode, Globee and others, and they do support payments via #LightningNetwork, which gives very private #bitcoin payments. For example, you can go to bitrefill.com, refill sim card (while browsing via #Tor btw), and use that prepaid card to pay for some small "fiat-sms" payments where applicable. Also, use gift cards, or just pay directly to e-store in BTC.

@Talkless No chance I'll boycott fiat. There is a (read: war on privacy). To fight that war on the side of privacy, I favor cash notes whenever possible & boycott cashless b&m shops. Cash notes have more privacy than the cryptocurrencies. Online payment is tricky. Cryptocurrency is best in that case, but hard to get & acceptance is low.

@Talkless My on , , & really narrows options to start with. So in the end my question still stands. Note that I also boycott & because they are members of the , and I boycott b/c it's an member. So short of cryptocurrency that leaves .

@resist1984 so which card stays in the loop removing visa and MasterCard? 🤔

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@ShinIce @Talkless I boycott amex,visa,mc. That leaves: discovercard, unionpay, & JCB.

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