When an online merchant accepts #Paypal or credit card, is Paypal still in the loop if credit card is used? I ask because I #boycottPaypal, & wonder if I should also avoid using a CC at PP-accepting merchants.

@resist1984 Well, if you going that far, maybe consider #boycottFiat? Some stores use payment processors like CoinGate, CoinPayments, OpenNode, Globee and others, and they do support payments via #LightningNetwork, which gives very private #bitcoin payments. For example, you can go to bitrefill.com, refill sim card (while browsing via #Tor btw), and use that prepaid card to pay for some small "fiat-sms" payments where applicable. Also, use gift cards, or just pay directly to e-store in BTC.

@Talkless No chance I'll boycott fiat. There is a #WarOnCash (read: war on privacy). To fight that war on the side of privacy, I favor cash notes whenever possible & boycott cashless b&m shops. Cash notes have more privacy than the cryptocurrencies. Online payment is tricky. Cryptocurrency is best in that case, but hard to get & acceptance is low.

@Talkless My #boycott on #Amazon, #walmart, & #paypal really narrows options to start with. So in the end my question still stands. Note that I also boycott #visa & #mastercard because they are members of the #BetterThanCashAlliance, and I boycott #AmEx b/c it's an #ALEC member. So short of cryptocurrency that leaves #discovercard.

@resist1984 (about narrowing options) Well, write to your local e-store and state your concern and ask them to consider accepting #btc. You can find sellers that use #Amazon as a front-end, and take business with them directly.

@Talkless i'm glad you mentioned bitrefill.com.. that seems to open up some options.

@resist1984 Check https://lightningnetworkstores.com/ and https://cryptwerk.com/ . There are probably more such aggregators in the wild.

@Talkless #lightningnetworkstores & #cryptwerk are also #CloudFlare sites, so they are useless to me.