white folks doing 'racial justice', caps
everyone is lobbying for police body cams and i'm just sitting here pointing at the multiple reports that show body cams not lowering police violence or mortality at all like.....
I SAID DEFUND, NOT GIVE 40K FOR CAMERAS
@eletrotupi @glitterwitch Stanford studied police cam footage for over a year, and found a strong correlation between whether the cop was respectful (using words like "please", "sir", "ma'am" vs. barking out orders with words like "bro", "homey") and skin color. And if you study police attitude & language for a particular intervention, the race could be determined ~70% of the time.
@resist1984 @glitterwitch Meanwhile researchers at Arizona analized over the course of four years of footage and come to the terms that it bodycams didn't made them less agressive whatsoever.
There are various studies and different degree of results.
I think we have enough data to know that bodycameras isn't enough and it's time to move on to more radical changes.
@eletrotupi @glitterwitch can you give a link to that study? It contradicts everything we've seen. Cameras have proven to reduce violence over decades. It's in fact why prisons have cameras, according to Edward Snowden.
@glitterwitch @eletrotupi "Under observation, we act less free, which means we effectively are less free." --Edward Snowden
@eletrotupi @glitterwitch Unwarranted surveillance is generally abusive for the the reason pointed out by Snowden, but exceptionally police encounters are different b/c you already lose the freedom privacy gives when under direct police observation. In that case, the cameras protect you from police misconduct. In effect, the *cop* is less free, and rightly so.
@glitterwitch @eletrotupi consider the recent case where an Ohio cop turned off his camera before shooting dead a black man & not rendering aid. The fact that he turned it off is in itself incriminating, coupled with the bits of footage they still got. Had there been no camera at all, it would have been purely a cops word against a dead man's word. That cop would still be working instead of going to trial.
"everything we've seen"
I needed one googling and have found several articles, here are some of them:
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/12/02/us/nypd-body-cameras-report/index.html
https://gizmodo.com/why-body-cameras-arent-a-cure-all-for-police-violence-1663231540
@eletrotupi @glitterwitch from the CNN link: "while the number of stops increased, the number of civilian complaints levied against officers decreased by 21%" "This study finds that the placement of BWCs (body-worn cameras) on officers can increase their compliance with department directives to document stops of citizens,"
@glitterwitch @eletrotupi "The NYPD was mandated in 2013 by Manhattan federal Judge Analisa Torres to start a pilot program for body-worn cameras as a way to fix the racial disparity" <= so the purpose was not to reduce violence, it was to promote racial equality, and the Stanford study supports that.
@eletrotupi @glitterwitch a BWC is a cheap way to improve quality control.
@glitterwitch @eletrotupi without body cams, that study would not have been possible. Financing body cams supports the cause underpinning the defund police lobby.