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Why so?
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That said I've just cancelled my Amazon Audible and Prime subscription and will be looking for alternative so I'm not coming to this blind...just interested in your perspective?
@jubes i'm not real sure what Amazon Audible is. Looks like audio books from a quick glance. Libraries have those at no cost, but I don't know of an online resource off the top of my head. Sometimes my boycott withstands even when there is no alternative.
@jubes I've never had Prime myself, but my understanding is that it gives free/fast shipping & streaming. The shipping can just be tossed b/c it's only for Amazon shopping anyway. Perhaps #Hulu is a decent streaming replacement (I boycott #Netflix also). Don't overlook free broadcast.. there are less commercials on free broadcast these days than cable/satellite.
@Obscurequokka @jubes I #boycott #MACFANG (#Microsoft #Amazon #CloudFlare #Facebook #Apple #Netflix #Google). I think #Netflix is commonly boycotted b/c it imposes DRM & the DRM is an exclusive MS technology which excludes some platforms.
@Obscurequokka @jubes An environmental problem also emerges from #Netflix. Netflix collaborates with #Roku on designed obsolescence, enabling Roku to force consumers to toss their old smartTVs into the landfill and buy new hardware, needlessly. It's all enabled by a coupling of DRM w/proprietary tech.
@resist1984 @jubes @Obscurequokka Doesn't your reasons for boycotting Amazon apply to most other streaming services?
Also if you need something to listen to instead of Audible, I've got some recommendations: https://adrian.geek.nz/movies
@alcinnz @Obscurequokka @jubes My approach is always to patronize the lesser of evils. For streaming, #Amazon is the most evil choice and #Netflix is the 2nd most evil, I find, so they are both off the table. I'm not subscribed to any streaming myself (I live with subscribers). If I were in the market I'd be doing more research on it.
@resist1984 @Obscurequokka @jubes Similar here, when I visit my parents I usually end up watching Netflix or something. Usually something special like Jojo Rabbit or Marx Brothers to tempt me away from my boycott.
Are Marx Brothers public domain yet?
@alcinnz @jubes @Obscurequokka i'm not sure you can count on anything expiring into public domain, considering the Micky Mouse shenanigans of making a slight change to renew copyright. But I've noticed public broadcast TV airs commercial-free films from the 50s & 60s.
@Obscurequokka @jubes @alcinnz A useful option in your situation might be to setup kodi with a plugin at your parent's place to save Netflix content for later viewing. Note that I boycott #Kodi by extension from the #CloudFlare boycott. But Kodi could facilitate a partial Netflix boycott where you drop Netflix for a stretch of time and watch past downloads.
@resist1984 @Obscurequokka @jubes I don't know if I can convince them. We used to use Kodi.
I'll just keep checking out what the other options are, and see if I can hopefully find something non-DRM'd that interests them.
This boycott certainly delivers a clearer picture of how marketting influences us!
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Thanks for the inspiring input all. It's certainly given me food for thought. A lot of services use at least one of AWS, GCP or Azure cloud platforms thus would you extend a boycott of Amazon to all services that use AWS for example?
@jubes @Obscurequokka @alcinnz I do extend my #Amazon boycott to customers of Amazon (e.g. Github, #Reddit, & DuckDuckGo), but I'm not diligent enough to avoid every news article that's Amazon-hosted, largely because the #CloudFlare boycott kills a big enough portion of the web.
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Ok and what's the end goal or ideal? i.e. boycott them until?
@jubes @alcinnz @Obscurequokka I boycott them until they become the lesser of evils -- which likely means forever.
@Obscurequokka @alcinnz @jubes I should also say that when shopping for a product or service, price & quality ("value") is lower priority for me than the ethical standing of the supply chain. So I do what I can as a consumer to make it a competition of ethics rather than a competition of value.
@jubes @alcinnz @Obscurequokka If Nestle chocolate where both the cheapest and also the highest quality chocolate, even then I still would not buy it because child slaves in the Ivory Coast have been found in #Nestle's supply chain. Nestle refuses responsibility, points the finger, and also fights transparency, amid other things like the CEO saying drinking water is not a right. So I won't buy Nespresso.
@jubes @Obscurequokka I also have a strong distaste for #Netflix exclusive content, which is an anti-competitive practice of blocking films from being sold outside the Netflix ecosystem. I'm not even sure how it's legal.