@marc0janssen
There is no point if your friends don't use it, try to convince close friends and then spread that circle slowly

@nikolal yes that’s the hard part. All are not worried or conscious about privacy at all.

@marc0janssen @nikolal you should ditch both & . github.com/privacytoolsIO/priv Tell your friends if they really care to stay in touch with you, they would not impose a system that requires you to register a phone#.

@marc0janssen
I think you need to set up first your threat model. Do you need your chats to be secure while you chat with your friends? Or do you need to have anonymity while chatting? I don't need anonymity but I like my chats to be secure with FOSS project so I'm using Signal which is proven to do that job very well. thehackernews.com/2016/10/sign
As for anonymous chat apps I suggest Briar, but again you have to scan each other QR codes for identity exchange
@resist1984

@nikolal @resist1984 thanks Nikolal. I need to start convincing people to use signal. I read that Facebook also bought gyphy. People need to see that Facebook is up to no good.

@marc0janssen @nikolal convincing ppl to use makes you part of the problem. You become the person that pushes people into a that excludes those who don't want to share their ph# & patronize all the privacy-abusing tech giants. See github.com/privacytoolsIO/priv

@nikolal @marc0janssen mass surveillance should be in your threat model, and promotes all the mass surveillance-pushing tech giants (, , , )

@marc0janssen @nikolal for iOS (and presumably low-tech users) you need Wire, which doesn't require a ph#.

@resist1984 @marc0janssen @nikolal you don't need to use matrix.org to use matrix. Self hosting is not so difficult and then you can easily bridge WhatsApp, messenger, telegram,... @yunohost gets you online pretty quickly with all the # fediverse goodies
@marc0janssen @nikolal @resist1984 yes doing it for more than a year now. @yunohost has an app for it but you still need to run an android VM somewhere. I run mine in a docker.

@jeroen @yunohost @nikolal @resist1984

Well this idea seems temping, but a bridge to whatsapp will still have my conversations on whatsapp. Then you sort of missed the whole point of walking away from whatsapp.

@marc0janssen @yunohost @nikolal @resist1984 not really. At least they don't now any more where I've been and fingerprint my phone.
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