@curufuin @cdmnky this is not at all a smart hill to die on when Pete's victory would mean removing the most seriously dangerous and destructive current #POTUS from the power he abuses. Most particularly considering that an attempt at bringing back the draft short of extreme circumstances would fail. To vote against Pete in the general #election2020 over an unlikely narrative is profoundly foolish.
@resist1984 @cdmnky And yet. I won’t be voting for a candidate that wants mandatory military service. I’d rather get Trump for 4 more years. Buttigieg is only marginally better than Trump on the issues that actually affect our lives. The only way in which he opposes Trump is symbolic, in practice he is a warmongering racist. So yeah, I’m ok dying on this hill. Sorry if that bothers you, but it’s not really your decision.
@curufuin @cdmnky No significant number of ppl believe that replacing #Trump with Pete is merely "symbolic". That's absurd. It's your choice to be a single-issue voter, but your opposition to Pete is effectively /symbolic/, b/c Pete wouldn't succeed in mandating military svc. The US has an elite military of highly trained volunteers - there is no need for a draft.
@cdmnky @curufuin It's bizarre to think that Congress would enact obligatory military service on all high school students. No president would get Congressional approval. But if we want to consider such a hypothetical world, only a largely #republican Congress would agree to mandating military svc, & if Pete boots Trump a republican Congress would stand against Pete's every move.
@curufuin @cdmnky Republicans would cut their nose off to spite their face. That was proven in the #impeachment trial.
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since you aren't using CWs, putting way more hashtags in than is normal on this platform and keep repeatedly spamming my notifications to by deleting and redrafting the same posts, i'm assuming you're a troll bot and will not interact further
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@resist1984 @cdmnky Why support a candidate who supports these things when literally none of the others do. The risk that Pete whould be able to work with republicans to pull the country further to the right is too great and exegete is no scenario where he is justified my vote. These ridiculous posts about how congress would never do it reminds me of all the times Dems said congress would stop Trump, it never happens and this false optimism is totally unjustifiable.
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To know what a modern day progressive mandate of military svc would look like you'd have to look at Europe. e.g. Belgium, where everyone must do "military" svc. But since there are so many problems w/forcing ppl to strap on boots, citizens can opt for community svc instead. In such a hypothetical post-equal rights era it's only feasible for men & women to have that choice. Yet in the US, this violates the 13th amendment. Changing #13A needs more than Congress. Every state votes on it
@curufuin It's totally unrealistic to think that Pete would get Congress on his side on this, because not a single democrat in Congress would support it. He would need an NRA-supported republican majority, and that's just to get started. It's bizarre and far-fetched the scenario that you think would play out.
@resist1984 @cdmnky I'm not a one issue voter and the fact you say that makes it obvious you're not here to debate in good faith. Ad homonym is a really poor way to convince people you are right. Pete is a racist who fired the first black police chief in south bend after a bunch of black officers came forward to point out racism in the south bend police department after a white officer killed an unarmed black kid last year. Pete was instrumental in bury the issue. Need I continue?
@curufuin Your thesis is changing here. Of course the racial issues are entirely different. I'm not a Pete supporter in the primaries & I don't have the details on his racial background. My response was to your OP (obligatory military svc).
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@resist1984 @curufuin i will only vote for him if he wins the primaries
I'd rather I have someone on the dem ticket that represents my beliefs rather than a half baked copout because you mistakenly believe he's more likely to win an election (the only reason he says he won iowa is because he tied Bernie's delegate count despite being 6 thousand votes behind him)