Perhaps a silly question, but what do y’all with privacy-indifferent friends do for chatting? I have signal for a few friends, and telegram for my spammy computer science friend group chat, but the great majority of my friends are iMessage/SMS/Facebook contactable only (and I deleted Facebook).

How do you either convince them to switch or limit your privacy risk in chatting with them?

@jenn As for , the only thing better than deleting it is not signing up in the first place. There is nothing you can do to communicate to a Facebook-only user without compromising your own security and giving FB more power. If you can manage to get their email address, you can send them encrypted email by shared key. But then you have to work out a clever way to get the key to them. IIRC and have that capability. It's a hassle for the recipient, but rightly so

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@jenn The hassle a recipient goes through to retrieve your symmetrically encrypted msg may motivate them to get a protonmail account or consult you for better options. My strategy is to never stoop to a lower level of security than I'm comfortable with. It's their duty to step up their game. There are some ppl I simply never connect with because they will not work securely and I will not give up security.

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