Perhaps a silly question, but what do y’all with privacy-indifferent friends do for chatting? I have signal for a few friends, and telegram for my spammy computer science friend group chat, but the great majority of my friends are iMessage/SMS/Facebook contactable only (and I deleted Facebook).

How do you either convince them to switch or limit your privacy risk in chatting with them?

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@jenn Signal is a bad idea in this situation. Those adverse to crypto won't use it, and because it subjects everyone to mulitiple varieties of mass surveillance (needlessly and foolishly) it's also unsuitable for advanced users. See github.com/privacytoolsIO/priv for the long list of issues.

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