@ansuz @cryptpad If you read the forums on the surrounding issues, OWS is clearly a bad player with profit at the forefront of their mission. They mislead and manipulate for the corporate bottom line. They get zero credit for ethics from a deontological standpoint. If someone can harvest some useful code from them and re-insert it into an ethical ecosystem, that's great, but there is no good reason to recommend Signal app to the general public. You might as well endorse Facebook's Whatsapp.