@trwnh
There are 7k+ languages, its stupid to change well established name of good product to something else because some of those 7k+ languages find it offensive

@nikolal the language is english. but also, the language is not relevant; what is relevant in language is how your words are understood. there is no reason to keep a bad name. there is *especially* no reason to keep a bad name that is hurting other people because of how bad it is.

@trwnh @nikolal while I agree that one should care about other people, there is a limit. I must say this whole issue is way overblown.

@blacklight447 @nikolal a lot of people with physical disabilities would disagree.

@trwnh
I don't think that even 1% of disabled people is offended by name GIMP aka GNU Image Manipulation Program
@blacklight447

@trwnh @nikolal what would be more important: brand recognition build it over 25 years, or keeping 2/3 people on the internet satisfied, I would know what I would choose. Look I get that you can't go offending people, but you can't just keep changing your name every time a few people online use it as a curse word. That's not realistic.

@blacklight447 @nikolal The "brand recognition" is nearly nonexistent, and worth less than the potential audience that would be open to using the software if the name was different. "Have you tried using The GIMP?" does not sound like a software recommendation.

@trwnh
You didn't make any good points. GIMP is well known software in image editing community as first alternative to Photoshop
@blacklight447

@nikolal @blacklight447 ok, now think outside of the "image editing community".

@trwnh @nikolal now how many people outside of the "image Editting community" would even bother with software they never use anyway.

@blacklight447 @nikolal people edit images casually. that does not make them part of some "community". an image editor is just a utility. they might as well use paint.exe.

@trwnh
Ok, now make some sense
@blacklight447

@nikolal @blacklight447 how does it not make sense to you? it's very simple. real people are turned away by the name. so much so, in fact, that a fork was made primarily to change the name. for some reason, you think this is stupid -- that's what doesn't make sense to me. you bring up hypothetical, not-real things.

@trwnh @nikolal again, your over blowing this whole issue, till today I haven't even herd gimp was a curse word at all. Again changing your name just because people utilize it as a curse word is not realistic. Like what, if people start using the name Linux as a sysnonym for the word moron, should we start naming the entire Linux foundation + kernel as well?

@blacklight447 @nikolal that's different. the gnu imp developers chose the name intentionally in reference. they knew what they were doing. it's not like it was an accidental slur. there are many better names that are not currently slurs. the whole point is apparently moot because the devs simply do not care about the people who are called the slur, hence the fork.

@blacklight447 @nikolal many times, people were told to fork it if they cared about the name so much. well, now there's a fork, and those same people are saying it shouldn't have been forked. that, to me, tells me they never cared about the needs of people. they just wanted to silence criticism.

@trwnh @nikolal oh I'm fine with it being forked, that the whole point, if you don't like the way something I'd going, you can make your own. I just personally think people have overblown the issue at hand. Their completely free to disagree, but its just that, my opinion, nothing more nothing less.

@trwnh
It is stupid, and you didn't show me single way of it not being stupid
@blacklight447

@nikolal @blacklight447 more like you're unwilling to change your mind and i shouldn't have bothered replying to you at all.

@trwnh @blacklight447
More like I wont accept things I find wrong and you find right, lets just agree to disagree

@trwnh
I don't believe that some internet brand name hurts people, not really. As I said, its just stupid and I'm sad about the trend "lets be offended by some random words on internet" that got us discussing about this in the first place.

@nikolal they're not random words. they have meaning. those meanings hurt people. it's not stupid to care about that. what harm does a fork do?

@trwnh
For non english speaker GIMP is random word, and GIMP is used also used by many non english speakers that will only get confused with Glimpse

@nikolal i don't think anyone should be worried about hypothetical confusion more than they should be worried about how the name is interpreted.