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@Coffee well it has to be that way with the model they've chosen. The interactive key exchange and the session logout go hand in hand.

@Coffee XMPP handles security noninteractively. Signal requires interaction of the user once for each device they add. SSL is noninteractive.

Suppose you have 20 friends. Each has 2 devices, a computer and a phone. You sign out and then sign back in. Now each one of them must on each device verify you, and this requires you and them to interact which means you have to be available at the same time. That's 40 interactions! How is this useable?

I spent social capital promoting Matrix and getting users within my social group, for what? So that they could spend more time verifying everyone on every device they own than they do talking to each other? Cross checking fucking emojis? Are you kidding me?

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I want to know who that works on Riot/Matrix decided that an interactive key exchange mechanism was smart, then who decided to force a new, still interactive mechanism was better (it is not), because they have doomed Riot as well as Matrix to failure.

@loweel Lol true story but at least you can kill two birds with one stone. Documenting while coding means details are fresh and it isn't a separate time consuming process. I am already in the habit of commenting extensively, adding a litle markdown isn't much more.

Man Rust is the shit! The compiler will build markdown documentation for you from comments in your code if you want it to! I have heard of stuff like this in other languages but never realized how powerful it is, a major problem in development is lack of documentation, and that is usually because the maintainers do not want to sit down and build documents. If you can do it while building though it makes everything so much easier.

@georgia@dickkickextremist.xyz better get clickity clanking then

@georgia@dickkickextremist.xyz man this is awesome. I've been waiting for it for a long time.

@JoYo yeah I think this is the only social media I've ever had that I don't reluctantly use. I actually enjoy it. I don't have any other social media. Its like you're expected to care about the noise one way or another and I think all of it just brings you down and keeps you there.

@JoYo that happens? Damn, I used Twitter once for 5 minutes years ago and didn't like it. It just doesn't feel like a real place where real people actually talk to each other.

Why is Riot such a dumpster fire? The Matrix protocol has so much potential and yet NewVector just manage to build hot garbage and prevent the protocol from gaining a wider user base. Why on earth is key exchange in Riot such a pain in the ass? If you sign out and then sign back in every single person in every single room you're in must manually verify your session. If you use it with any seriousness this absolutely breaks usability. Why did they introduce such a massive point of friction?

@kaikatsu
just because you hate your life doesn't mean the whole world hates theirs. If you take as a rule something that is not empirically true how can you call yourself a thinker?
@3FingeredFox @velartrill @kaniini

@3FingeredFox @kaikatsu @velartrill @kaniini all this ranting and your supposition "work under capitalism is not freely chosen", which is the only underpinning in this spiel, is wrong. There's always a nugget of untruth underpinning the argument with leftists. Always.

@georgia@dickkickextremist.xyz great, now if we can start using a system to make this sort of thing impossible that would be great. Fuck ICANN and fuck centralized domain registries.

@Wetrix "The permissions include access to accessibility settings, the ability to read from external storage, send and receive SMS messages, run in the background, and launch itself after system boot."

Haha find me a closed source app that doesn't ask for all this.

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