@marc0janssen
There is no point if your friends don't use it, try to convince close friends and then spread that circle slowly
@nikolal yes that’s the hard part. All are not worried or conscious about privacy at all.
@marc0janssen @nikolal you should ditch both #WhatsApp & #signal. https://github.com/privacytoolsIO/privacytools.io/issues/779 Tell your friends if they really care to stay in touch with you, they would not impose a system that requires you to register a phone#.
@resist1984 @nikolal what do you use then? Riot?
@marc0janssen
I think you need to set up first your threat model. Do you need your chats to be secure while you chat with your friends? Or do you need to have anonymity while chatting? I don't need anonymity but I like my chats to be secure with FOSS project so I'm using Signal which is proven to do that job very well. https://thehackernews.com/2016/10/signal-messenger-fbi-subpoena.html?m=1
As for anonymous chat apps I suggest Briar, but again you have to scan each other QR codes for identity exchange
@resist1984
@nikolal @resist1984 thanks Nikolal. I need to start convincing people to use signal. I read that Facebook also bought gyphy. People need to see that Facebook is up to no good.
@marc0janssen @nikolal convincing ppl to use #Signal makes you part of the problem. You become the person that pushes people into a #walledgarden that excludes those who don't want to share their ph# & patronize all the privacy-abusing tech giants. See https://github.com/privacytoolsIO/privacytools.io/issues/779
@nikolal @marc0janssen mass surveillance should be in your threat model, and #Signal promotes all the mass surveillance-pushing tech giants (#Amazon, #Google, #CloudFlare, #Facebook)
@resist1984 @nikolal nice you push briar but can you get me a iOS client please.
@marc0janssen @nikolal for iOS (and presumably low-tech users) you need Wire, which doesn't require a ph#.
@resist1984 Wire needs a phone# too babe. @nikolal
@marc0janssen @nikolal no it doesn't. It's optional. If you don't supply a ph# then you must supply an email (which can be disposable)
@resist1984 @nikolal ok ok But I think you are must more anonymous aware they I am. I don’t need to reach the 100% ;-)
@marc0janssen @nikolal I don't need Snowden-level security either. My main objective is ethical consumption. Privacy is secondary. It's about boycotting corporate harm & wrongdoing. Signal feeds lots of bad players.
@resist1984 @nikolal but I live in Europe. We don’t give a shit about trump and his administration.
@marc0janssen @nikolal first of all, you should care about what Trump is doing to the planet, what he did to Ukraine - his destruction is not confined to the US. And that was just an example.
@nikolal @marc0janssen Amazon is causing immeasurable harm to the environment, and you can't tell me Amazon isn't affecting Europe. Amazon hired neo nazis in Germany to intimidate immgrant workers. Signal and Wire use Amazon for hosting.
@resist1984 @nikolal Werner van Braun always flown to the US to help you guys build rockets. What space technology are you using. You have a microwave, love? Are you now not using microwaves anymore because of Werner von Braun?
