This coming from the same company that dropped plans to encrypt iCloud data E2E because the FBI told them to, and have provided China with access to all Chinese iCloud accounts and censored VPN apps in China, and removed FaceTime from Saudi Arabian iPhones because encrypted calls are illegal... Nevermind the fact that even if #Apple was trustworthy, "we can do X but we promise we won't" isn't #security and doesn't guarantee #privacy. Encryption does that. Apple just undermined encryption.

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@aspie4K people will still use the excuse " I have nothing to hide" just because you may not have cp on your phone doesn't mean that you dont have other sensitive information. Why would I trust a human from any government agency to be snooping on my phone. Let's say one of them steals your critical data and uses it for extortion or sells it somewhere else, youll never be able to prove it. Will this "master key" still give access to encrypted devices?

@lnx exactly and this also brings up an interesting point regarding if enterprise users will continue to trust iPhones with sensitive corporate data.

When people say "nothing to hide" best response is test where their line is. Would they be okay if Apple permanently turned the cameras and mics on for all their devices "to protect the children"?

@aspie4K @lnx also these changes are likely only to catch dumb pedos and accidental uploads, because the really horrible pedos aren't uploading shit to the cloud, because they are both smart and evil. Probably sharing images that have never been in a database.

@charims @lnx yep the real bad people know the databases and definitely aren't backing up their CP to fucking iCloud, this entire CP angle is nothing but a red herring to justify a backdoor to the public.

@aspie4K @lnx to be honest, I'm all for catching pedos, but when you skim the surface, you are only going to catch what's floating on top. This isn't about making the world a better place, its about pretending to do something for the kids in order to make a political statement and probably to shield themselves from something worse the politicians are working on which would hold apple responsible for "doing nothing" about CSAM hosted on their servers.

@charims @lnx that's the thing, no reasonable person is going to argue against catching actual pedos, so they dress it up like that to make it palatable to the uninformed masses who can now just disregard anyone who doesn't like it as a pedo without realising this is exactly the type of broad easily abused surveillance tool the NSA always wanted, delivered straight from the "privacy friendly" Apple.

@aspie4K @charims that's right. I get that the concept is great but this is definitely a ruze to backdoor everyone's devices and computers. First its "protect the children" next it will be "protect the government" where they will monitor every single message and photo you do. They will come for Linux too, but thankfully our community knows better when it comes to encryption. This is however a great chance to educate people and offer them a better solution.

@lnx @charims it will take no time at all before it's expanded to "national security" which as we've learnt quickly evolves into "spy on everyone and gather as much as you can." Apple might as well have custom made this for the NSA. For all we know, they did. Part of PRISM after all.

Luckily FOSS is much more difficult to backdoor especially a major project like Linux or a big distro. Not impossible but verrry difficult. Proprietary software is easy.

@aspie4K @charims that's true, Linux will reign superior for many more years.

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