@chris Luckily my partner and parents were not already too deep. I was able to get them onto FOSS with a bit of convincing and hand holding. I love them for being patient. I gave up on some teenagers who should have been educated on the traps before being given devices. They are in way too deep already, but they are starting to think about what I tell them. Whether they know it or appreciate it yet, our family members are lucky to have us.