Not so much for anti-nuclear-power, but they didn't have to (local activists easily switched from weapons to power) and didn't care - as you correctly noted, Russia placed strategic bet on fossil fuels in the West.

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**publius** @publius@mastodon.sdf.org · Sep 04, 2021, 17:48

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@kravietz

You might say it is the other way around. There is strong reason to believe that Western antinuclearism was backed by the Soviets, & then it redounded on them in the form of the massive post-Chernobyl chaos & loss of confidence in the USSR. Support for the anti-vaccine & anti-GMO campaigns have followed the model laid down by the anti-nuclear-energy efforts.

Sir Fred Hoyle discussed this in a book in the 1970s, & was threatened over it by "Friends of the Earth".

**kravietz 🦇** @kravietz@social.privacytools.io · Sep 04, 2021, 17:38

**kravietz 🦇** @kravietz@social.privacytools.io · Sep 04, 2021, 17:38

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@publius

Also, if the latter is true ("anti-nuclear when it comes to all others"), they have clearly not learned any lessons from their anti-vaccine campaigns in the West, which were promptly translated back into Russian by anti-vaxxers and created massive distrust against their own vaccination program.

**kravietz 🦇** @kravietz@social.privacytools.io · Sep 04, 2021, 17:26

**kravietz 🦇** @kravietz@social.privacytools.io · Sep 04, 2021, 17:26

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@publius

Exactly. And what did they achieve? Literally nothing, apart from yet another "Ukraine sucks at everything" message that few people even in Russia believe.

Unless they start sell these articles to their proxies in the West, where they will be promptly picked up by Greenpeace & friends.

**kravietz 🦇** · Sep 04, 2021, 17:15

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**publius** @publius@mastodon.sdf.org · Sep 04, 2021, 17:15

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@kravietz

There have got to be some VERY unhappy people at the Kurchatov Institute right now. For years they've used their prestige within Russia to assure that Ukraine continues to receive nuclear fuel, & to maintain active engagement with Ukraine in the nuclear energy sector, despite the Kremlin's attitude.

But you see this all the time : Russian media presents a solidly pro-nuclear narrative when it comes to Russian-built plants, and one as solidly anti-nuclear when it comes to all others.

**kravietz 🦇** @kravietz@social.privacytools.io · Sep 04, 2021, 11:45

**kravietz 🦇** @kravietz@social.privacytools.io · Sep 04, 2021, 11:45

Sep 04, 2021, 11:45

kravietz 🦇 @kravietz@social.privacytools.io

@Wetrix That's life, isn't it? You can't be bothered by everything other people feel. A true friend should be probably happy for you, not hurt.

**kravietz 🦇** @kravietz@social.privacytools.io · Sep 04, 2021, 11:42

**kravietz 🦇** @kravietz@social.privacytools.io · Sep 04, 2021, 11:42

Sep 04, 2021, 11:42

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@piotrsikora @stepien_przemek @zieloni

Problem z Greenpeace polega na tym, że oni powołują się na scenariusze IEA... które sami odrzucają bo sugerują one użycie energii jądrowej.

Stępień z tego co widzę dla odmiany w ogóle postanowił przemilczać EJ i pojechał w technologie, które nie istnieją w skali przemysłowej.

Zróbmy tak jak Niemcy w 2010 - postawmy na nieistniejące technologie i skończmy z 60% OZE i równocześnie węglem i gazem 🤦‍♂️

**kravietz 🦇** @kravietz@social.privacytools.io · Sep 04, 2021, 11:37

**kravietz 🦇** @kravietz@social.privacytools.io · Sep 04, 2021, 11:37

Sep 04, 2021, 11:37

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Aczkolwiek:

> W naszym GRU, oficerowie, którzy odpowiadają za rozpoznanie innych krajów, w Centrali, w Mińsku, nie znają języków obcych.

To brzmi jak kompletna bzdura szczerze mówiąc i próba przedstawienia białoruskich służb jako nieudolnych ciamajd... po tym jak skutecznie wjechali na skrzynki połowy KPRM, wykazując całkiem niezłą znajomość polskiego.

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**kravietz 🦇** @kravietz@social.privacytools.io · Sep 04, 2021, 08:14

**kravietz 🦇** @kravietz@social.privacytools.io · Sep 04, 2021, 08:14

Sep 04, 2021, 08:14

kravietz 🦇 @kravietz@social.privacytools.io

🇵🇱Aliaksandr Azarau: 5 tys. euro od uchodźcy. To żyła złota dla białoruskich służb 🇧🇾

https://www.o2.pl/informacje/aliaksandr-azarau-5-tys-euro-od-uchodzcy-to-zyla-zlota-dla-bialoruskich-sluzb-6678885906959168a

**kravietz 🦇** @kravietz@social.privacytools.io · Sep 04, 2021, 07:56

**kravietz 🦇** @kravietz@social.privacytools.io · Sep 04, 2021, 07:56

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@publius

Thank you, especially in Germany this requires some courage! 👍

**kravietz 🦇** · Sep 03, 2021, 17:15

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**publius** @publius@mastodon.sdf.org · Sep 03, 2021, 17:15

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publius @publius@mastodon.sdf.org

Tomorrow there will be a pro-nuclear-energy rally in Augsburg, followed by one at the power plant at Gundremmingen.

I made flyers.

https://critical-climate-action.de/demo-termine-2021/#gundremmingen

#atomicpowertothepeople

**kravietz 🦇** @kravietz@social.privacytools.io · Sep 04, 2021, 07:55

**kravietz 🦇** @kravietz@social.privacytools.io · Sep 04, 2021, 07:55

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By publishing this nonsense about Westinghouse contract in Ukraine, Russian state media do irreparable harm to its own #nuclear industry —Rosatom still provides fuel and services to Ukraine.

Ukraine’s state owned nuclear utility Energoatom signed an exclusive a $30 billion dollar agreement with Westinghouse to complete construction of Khmelnitsky.

https://www.stopfake.org/en/atomic-howl-in-the-swamps-russian-media-on-us-ukrainian-nuclear-energy-cooperation/

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**Maria Hill** @MariaHill@democracy.town · Sep 03, 2021, 16:10

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Maria Hill @MariaHill@democracy.town

@kravietz I see you are Polish living in the UK, so you may understand this quite well. A friend of mine who is a dual citizen (USA/France) and now lives in the USA explains to his relatives in France when they are baffled by what they hear in French media that the different states are like EU countries, each with their own culture and laws. There are federal laws that supersede state laws (which is quite different as the EU court and parliament doesn't have nearly as much power), but anything that is not specifically a federal power is left to the states to decide. No one should be experimenting on their prisoners though! But I'm a lot less surprised to hear that this is happening in Arkansas than I would be in Maryland or Massachusetts, because the states that voted for TFG correlate closely with beliefs that COVID isn't real or masks and vaccines don't work. In the northeast, we have high rates of vaccination and we wear masks.

**kravietz 🦇** @kravietz@social.privacytools.io · Sep 03, 2021, 18:40

**kravietz 🦇** @kravietz@social.privacytools.io · Sep 03, 2021, 18:40

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@MariaHill

You're 100% right it's hard to understand for a non-US person who looks at US as a "country" and applies the patterns from countries we know. Your comment is very helpful and explains a lot 👍