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@vfrmedia @randynose @Ambiorix @aral @yaglb

> a lot of EVs have the surveillance tech baked in

And that's probably the area that needs most focus for privacy advocacy groups and regular citizens. Currently the car firmware is 100% proprietary black box can do anything as long as it passes the safety & emissions tests. If these are 100% covered by GDPR, it will both control all kind of proprietary and abusive tracking (as in Tesla) and insurance tracking making it subject to explicit consent.

@kravietz @guenther here in Germany you played a deposit and got a big trashbag and when you returned it filled up after the festival you got back 5-10€. That worked really good. If you did not cause trash you collected the one from your neighbors.
But indeed it will not work if it is too cheap and increasing the price punishes the poor...

@guenther @Bobo_PK @kravietz

I used to live almost on the doorstep of Reading Festival (it takes place in the smaller suburb of Caversham) for about 30 years of my life. The whole thing has been an ecological and safeguarding disaster for decades, it already costs nearly 300€ for a full ticket, so the poor are already priced out. also many positive LFT Covid tests were thrown in the gutters outside the venue, as people who have spent so much won't turn back..

getreading.co.uk/news/reading-

@vfrmedia @bhtooefr @randynose @Ambiorix @yaglb @aral

I think that's how most countries will deal with personal ICE vehicles - by clean air regulations and other soft power.

I don't think you can effectively get rid of ICE in heavy good vehicles or long-distance travel, in both cases EV are quite useless with current technology.

But ICE is doing most harm in the cities specifically, so it makes perfect sense to start there.

@guenther

I don't it would be too difficult for the bands to say "hey people, pack your tents and take them back".

I'm afraid however that it's not very much in the interest of the organisers who very likely follow a "people come here to relax" logic.

@Rushyo @michiel

Oh I also totally was getting pissed on festivals 20 years ago but then we'd clean the puke from the tents and carefully pack them and take them home as they were too expensive as compared to Eastern European salaries :)

Russia πŸ‡·πŸ‡Ί today announced in Vienna that it won't support an extension beyond 30 Sep of the OSCE border and observer mission at the two checkpoints (Donetsk & Gukovo) on the Russian-Ukrainian border.

The border mission has been routinely reporting military convoys crossing from Russia into Donbass, which has been frequent point of criticism - no wonder they want it stopped.

The mobile OSCE observers they alredy stop wherever they want, and OSCE drones they jam 🀷

@michiel

That's the problem β€” it's carbon fiber, plastic and metal, none of which decomposes, and burns dirty.

@EdwardTorvalds

UK is largely vaccinated and the festival required negative test (which some people undoubtedly faked) or vaccination certificate.

itv.com/news/meridian/2021-08-

The article mentions a 40k festival where 1000 people tested positive for COVID-19, and case fatality rate in UK is now 0.5% as everyone older is vaccinated. Reading was 100k, so ~2k possible cases, which gives ~10 potential deaths from COVID-19.

California to open 5 natural gas plants to avoid blackouts

> California has been gambling that we can have a grid that can supply the fifth largest economy in the planet with enough electricity primarily from wind and solar (...) Now, the problem with that is that wind and solar is not baseload, it is intermittent load, it is a supply that goes away when we need it the most.

kmph.com/news/local/california

DW: Around 100,000 people attended Reading Festival in the UK last weekend. This is what they left behind.

Yes, the tents were apparently also abandoned as they can be bought cheap and nobody cares. All that goes to landfill or gets burned.

@freemo

If you only read NSDAP programme rather than stick to silly US Republican cherry-picked nonsense, you'd quickly see the difference between modern European social-democracies and nazi Germany. Your confusion is a direct outcome of you sticking to the "socialism" vs "capitalism" reductionism. This is especially ridiculous as you yourself clearly have experience with multi-variate machine learning, but categorically insist on interpreting this one as binary πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

@modrobert

@modrobert @freemo

No no, it's only subjective if we use subjective, tribal naming schemes.

"I don't like socialism" is 100% subjective indeed and means nothing.

I say:

"I don't like central planning of toilet paper production and want free market for toilet paper. Also I want central planning for healthcare and public health services with only elements of market for some services".

Is that "capitalist" or "socialist" statement?

@modrobert @freemo

In this discussion, nobody is referring to any specific political system (Marxist? Maoist? One-of-the-other-hundreds-ist?), just using "socialism" and "capitalism" in their most vague and meaningless form. If you don't like propaganda and mainstream, the best way to fight it is to first stop using its language 🀷

@modrobert @freemo

Everyone in this discussion is using their own private and reductionist definitions of what "socialism", "communism" and "capitalism" are, ignoring the fact that since 18th century there were literally hundreds of factions declaring themselves as the only correct version of the above.

All Eastern Bloc countries (where I was born) had both "communism" and "socialism" in their names and foundational documents, but at least specifically referred to Marxism-Leninism.

@modrobert @freemo

Sorry - I should have been more clear: that was about Freemo declaring China socialist.

@modrobert @freemo

It only demonstrates the stupidity of "socialism vs capitalism" division. It serves nothing else but tribal wars between people who have no clue what they're talking about, but know very well what side they're on.

@freemo @modrobert

Don't make far fetching statements before checking the actual data - China is nearly as "socialist" as say Russia or Norway - the share of *private* business in the GDP is 60% (!)

write.as/arcadian/communist-ch

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