kravietz 🦇 @kravietz@social.privacytools.io

@dump_stack

Maybe you should accept the truth and accept that Russian Federation has annexed part of Ukraine and continues a war in Donbass while using Russian-speaking population there as a pretext to justify armed intervention to "protect" its citizens whom it issued passports just a moment ago?

If you want to full context of how pro-Russian organisations in Ukraine were funded and used to incite violence I recommend these chats of Glazyev & Zatulin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH_K7-051Ms

@werekat

@dump_stack @werekat

> no point to make a discriminatory law that restricts the Russian language

First, it does not *restrict* - it grants it less privilege in public secondary education.

Second, looking at Donbass where Russian Federation first issued 500'000 Russian passports by now and then it's once again speaking about "defending the rights of its citizens", it's hard not to see what Ukraine is trying to prevent.

@dump_stack @werekat

Just a fact check - as of 2001 there were 17% ethnic Russian population in Ukraine, so it's the largest minority but still, well, minority.

Now, if as of 2000's so many people were indeed speaking Russian *and* they were ethnic Ukrainians, it's difficult to explain that by anything else than gradual russification, as seen in Belarus and Caucasus.

It's just as hard to explain why Russia is so much offended by it when it so fiercely opposes "Westernisation".

@dump_stack And you skipped this

@dump_stack You skipped these

@dump_stack

And no, you have only quoted the single article 6 from the regulation. In reality the complete picture looks much different because the preceding articles grant numerous rights to *all* minorities, it's just that in secondary school they start to increase amount of lessons in Ukrainian.

But I'd ask @werekat for more insight here as I don't know the full context here.

@dump_stack

No, it's just "an idea that all people in Ukraine should have perfect knowledge of Ukrainian", using your own words 😉

@dump_stack

And I don't see UAV flying 27 km over behind the front line plausible with all the anti-UAV defences Russia deployed there.

And you stick to the "moved land mine 30 km from front-line" without actually checking that it's just nonsense.

Oleksandrivske is a just next to Yenakiieve and Gorlivka, heavy battles going for control of the region as recently as 2019. As a matter of fact in 2014 Ukrainian army controlled Vuglegursk, which is just next to Oleksandrivske.

@dump_stack

So you basically say that in the headline "dump_stack() eats children for breakfast" the message "eats breakfast" is just as important as "eats children"?

I ask because for me it wouldn't really matter if they wrote "eats children for breakfast" or "for dinner", what matters is "eats children".

That's the actual message here and - per your interpretation - it's partially true.

@dump_stack

It took me a while to find _that_ toot - just replace "Russia" with "Ukraine"

@dump_stack

It's just as true as "dump_stack() eats children for breakfast". You eat breakfast, don't you, so it's not *entirely* false, right?

@dump_stack Here's you original comment which clearly describes UAV as "entirely possible" and the land mine as "unplausible".

@dump_stack

Oh and one more reason why I compared your position to the helium fringes was that you rushed to dismiss the version of an accident with a land mine, even though in terms of plausibility it's just as or more likely as UAV. So you clearly pushed the version you liked, which happened to be the version of Russian state media.

@dump_stack

> Do it correctly to compare

When there's no evidence but you *really* want a specific story you like to be true you can actually compare anything to anything.

> UAV used in the area

In Oleksandrivske? No.

@Preston What vaccine brand was that?

@dump_stack Precisely, that's what I've been saying all the time. There has been no evidence of UAV use in Oleksandrivske.

@mkljczk No kredytu to na to raczej nie wezmą :)

@dump_stack

Not sure if I understand what you're saying here, do you have any reference for that? It can be in Russian or in Ukrainian :)

@dump_stack

The demagogy is that confronted with a story with zero evidence for X, you suddenly come up with an elaborated series of "what if X" arguments, which have nothing in common with the original story, but are 100% compliant with the propaganda stories on that subject.

@kotovalexarian @stux

Snakes can swim pretty well. Once in Krasnodar I was sitting on a bank of the river with my legs in water and then noticed a snake in water just 20 cm from my feet. It came back from the lake and was patiently waiting for me to remove my feet so he could get into his home in the bank 😂