kravietz 🦇 @kravietz@social.privacytools.io

@dump_stack

The conclusion from the absolute statement "all media are propaganda and changes your brain wiring" is rather bitter: no media is worth watching and following.

But it's largely impractical and simply wrong.

Brain damage from watching Russia Today is in my opinion by orders of magnitude larger than brain damage from reading even the most biased articles in Novaya Gazeta.

@dump_stack

Your point seems to be that all of them are basically the same, some twist context, some invent stories. Well, I believe that's very much the point — it makes enormous qualitative difference whether a media outlet fabricates a story about crucifixed boy, or presents actual facts in what you believe is a biased context.

From the latter you can somehow extract the facts and separate them from opinion, the former just keeps you hostage of an emotional story that is entirely false.

@dump_stack

What I'm saying is that focusing on maybe biased but rather minor article of NG, while ignoring the whole massive machine of oppression and propaganda that the Russian state media is, is a bit like saying "look, that little excavator illegally broke bank of Suez Channel, while ignoring the massive vessel that is just stuck there".

@dump_stack

Ok, let's assume for a while NG is indeed defending Navalny by attacking the "messenger" with a biased article.

But:

> Navalny is 100% nationalist

Is it justification for 1) poisoning, 2) completely rigged trial, 3) denying him medical help in prison, 4) the whole campaign of lies where quite an obvious evidence against FSB is twisted in a childish manner by government media?

@epic You can use https://www.deepl.com/translator or https://translate.panlex.org/ (open-source)

"The largest anti-vaxxer influencer on social media, according to the report, is Joseph Mercola. Mercola is an alternative medicine promoter who runs a multimillion dollar online business selling treatments and dietary supplements. The FDA recently sent Mercola a warning over his sham treatments for COVID-19. "

"If you catch your old college roommate sharing COVID-19 vaccine misinformation on Facebook, the odds are that these falsehoods are coming from one of twelve people."

https://mashable.com/article/disinformation-dozen-study-anti-vaxxers/?europe=true

Rogozin: "Navalny has been officially reprimanded for getting up ten minutes ahead of schedule. This may become an obstacle for his early release. He doesn’t get to sleep much because of pain and prison wardens waking him up every hour to make sure he hasn’t fled."

My suggestion: go and read the history of arrest & death of Sergey Magnitsky. It may become very relevant soon...

https://www.znak.com/2021-03-26/advokat_navalnogo_politik_riskuet_popast_v_shizo_tak_kak_prosnulsya_na_10_minut_ranshe

@kvuilleumier I think this one https://www.marinetraffic.com/

"Soviet military intelligence", Victor Suvorov, 1984

@dump_stack

You are talking about bias. You can say most media are biased to some extent. What RT or Rossiya 1 were doing in case of MH17 or Donbass wasn't even close to bias - it was 100% fakes, intentionally invented to incite hatred and escalate the conflict (like the "crucifixed boy"). I have never seen a Novaya article that would contain 100% staged fakes, even the article you quoted (possibly biased) is, per your own words, based on true information.

"A British professor corresponded for months with a man called only "Ivan", seeking assistance to discredit an organisation that helps bring Syrian war criminals to justice. He also asked "Ivan" to investigate other British academics and journalists."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-56524550

@dump_stack

I disagree. Equating them is actually making favour to state propaganda. When Novaya writes about extrajudicial killings in Chechnya or Insider describes FSB participation in Navalny poisoning, these are based on facts and pretty good evidence. What Kisyelov or Simonyan are doing is the opposite of that. Journalists are actually being killed in Russia for doing their job.