kravietz 🦇 @kravietz@social.privacytools.io

@koherecoWatchdog

Ah, so Amalgam Bank is not "ethical" now, it's merely "less evil"...

And you only know about Akamai because I told you, because whoever made that list didn't care to check the bank's transactional part of the website.

As I said before: the level of your zealousness is proportional to your ignorance.

@humanetech @FiXato @strypey @espen

@koherecoWatchdog

> banks that avoid CF & AWS

Actually, looking at the list of "ethical" banks I must correct my plans - I'd need to move to Southern Vermont to use one.

And remind me, is Akamai good or evil in you reality? Because this is what Amalgamated uses:

cibng.ibanking-services.com.edgekey.net is an alias for e29141.a.akamaiedge.net.

@espen @strypey @FiXato @humanetech

@koherecoWatchdog

Fantastic, I'm certainly going to return to all your recipes for fancy ways of sending money in the event when I move to US and open a clandestine meth lab.

For now I'm just going to stick to LiberaPay.

@humanetech @FiXato @strypey @espen

@koherecoWatchdog @espen @strypey @FiXato @humanetech

I'm not in the US, just as 96% of the world's population so your checks are useless to us.

> Cryptocurrency payments don't inherently need an exchange

Oh so you just stash them and enjoy?

> there are p2p options

Have you *actually* ever used Bisq? I have.

@koherecoWatchdog @humanetech @FiXato @strypey @espen

So let's look draw a summary:

* LiberaPay is bad because it uses CloudFlare and Amazon

You propose:

1) Cryptocurrencies, even though almost all exchanges also run on CF & AWS

2) Bank transfers, even though banks also run on CF & AWS

3) Paper checks, which nobody outside rural US uses

4) "Electronic checks", which are US marketing alias for 2)

@koherecoWatchdog @espen @strypey @FiXato @humanetech

I know what I wrote and what you read, because you clearly have no idea about payment systems used outside of the US. Yet you're here trying to force your personal preferences on everyone else in an annoyingly arrogant and ignorant manner.

@koherecoWatchdog @humanetech @FiXato @strypey @espen

No, you are the one actually supporting PayPal business interest by your zealous campaign against one of the very few micropayment services that actually work.

@koherecoWatchdog @humanetech @FiXato @strypey @espen

You are quite uneducated in the topic, and yet speaking from a position of authority.

DIRECT DEBIT is not the same as DEBIT CARD.

Direct debit is when a bank directly charges your account without any card processors.

I appreciate it may take another 50 years for that to appear in the US...

@koherecoWatchdog @espen @strypey @FiXato @humanetech

You are supporting PayPal by throwing shit on LiberaPay which offers a number of *alternative* payment methods.

LiberaPay allows me send and receive donations *without* even touching PayPal. If you kill LiberaPay, then PayPal will be my again only options, as it was 10 years ago.

And no, I don't want checks, cryptocurrencies and other crap.

@koherecoWatchdog @humanetech @FiXato @strypey @espen

I've never used PayPal with LiberaPay. I support a dozen of projects and have a direct debit set for all of them from my GBP and EUR account.

If some donors prefer PayPal, it's their preference and LiberaPay helps developers get paid this way.

@koherecoWatchdog @espen @strypey @FiXato @humanetech

> get any kind of crypocurrency, you can exchange

You must be an extremely experienced developer if you believe one's primary life purpose is to exchange one cryptocurrency for another, and then back.

@koherecoWatchdog @espen @strypey @FiXato @humanetech

> But putting #PayPal in the loop

Exactly. It's you who is pushing people into the hands of PayPal by throwing shit at LiberaPay.

> whatever issue you have with paper checks

Man, what are you even doing on Mastodon? You should be posting hand-written notes on lamp posts in your area and request people drop their checks into your PO box.

@koherecoWatchdog @humanetech @FiXato @strypey @espen

> use cryptocurrency

Which one exactly? Because it's thousands of them, most highly volatile, and you can't buy a shit for them alone - so you buy and sell them at crypto exchanges which will request your driver license and passport as part of KYC.

@koherecoWatchdog @humanetech @FiXato @strypey @espen

I get it. So a bank in US came up with a new product called "Zelle" which is "a check" (you) that is "not a check" (US Bank) and it's privacy-friendly because it relies on US banking system which is built on top of Amazon, Akamai, CloudFlare and other privacy friendly tech.

@koherecoWatchdog @espen @strypey @FiXato @humanetech

Have you ever sent a bank transfer in your life? Both sides see their full legal name *as a minimum* and banks see all the details, including address etc. You must have mistaken IBAN with a BTC address, I'm afraid.

@koherecoWatchdog @espen @strypey @FiXato @humanetech

> And paper checks don't require an address

Any more 19th century ideas for sending money?

On the bridght side, I'm sure this would be a feature most welcome by Ted Kaczynski living in an off-grid trailer in a desert.

@groosha @kisainacup @drq @rf

Вот пожалуйста - там можно ставить лайки :)

https://gitlab.e.foundation/e/os/LineageOTA/-/issues/11

@koherecoWatchdog @humanetech @FiXato @strypey @espen

> IBAN wires outside the US

Sending a bank transfer for $5 with my personal details is protecting my privacy... exactly how?