kravietz 🦇 @kravietz@social.privacytools.io

@loweel @strypey

> were

That's the key word here.

@strypey

Also Solzhenitsyn described an interesting case study as his forced labour camp produced 40'000 m3 of timber according to the plan with great human losses but it then never picked up by the manufacturers who had enough already to fulfill their plans and the timber was simply wasted.

Now, if you say that capitalist economies are the inflexible ones...

@strypey

This Soviet 1986 article describes the state of their economy: 30% of resources wasted as they were kept in stockpiles only to ensure completion of the plan in each cycle. Imbalance between various goods due to incorrectly determined demand - like, you've got too many locomotives that nobody needs, but at the same time nobody can buy toilet paper.

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@strypey

Going back to the theory of Marxist economy, they believed capitalism is inherently wasteful because the market is inherently chaotic.

They replaced it by "rational and scientific" planning of production, where production and pricing of *everything* from coal and ships to socks and toilet paper was centrally planned to avoid waste. So far, so good...

Now if you complain that this "take it or lose it" coal contract was inflexible, imagine this in the scale of the whole economy.

@strypey

Nothing "capitalist" prevents these parties from renegotiating their agreements and contracts to stop wasting the goods delivered. This is anything but "structural".

As correctly noted by @incognitum seeing such silly reductionism a question logically arises: ok, so what's the alternative?

Then you realise that all known alternatives not based on market economy were event more wasteful and "ecocidal".

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@strypey

An union of socialist republics over 70 years contaminates ⅙ of the planet with industrial and nuclear waste - oh, they had good intentions, just failed.

A few companies are bound by long-term contracts and/or stupid regulations - hurr-durr, capitalism is ecocidal.

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@amolith

Ok, I get it but it's not honest in long-term when they pinpoint the sins of their competitor only to copycat its surveillance technology 😂

@hackernews @amolith Are you 100% sure you want to recommend *this*? https://feedback.plausible.io/27

This still works BTW https://www.eviltester.com/blog/eviltester/2019/11/25-automating-twitter-interests/

SWPR: "World Socialist Web Site by the International Committee of the 4th Fourth International" the most *liberal* news out there.

Fking great...

It's not even US "liberal" because they're Swiss.

What next? "Postmodernist" Nature.com?

https://swprs.org/media-navigator/

SWPR: "World Socialist Web Site by the International Committee of the 4th Fourth International" the most *liberal* news out there.

Fking great...

It's not even US "liberal" because they're Swiss.

What next? "Postmodernist" Nature.com?

https://swprs.org/media-navigator/