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Excellent project: GoNIDS, a #Suricata rule parser, linter, formatter and more!
https://github.com/google/gonids
Many thanks to its authors π
"Fear of arbitrary authorities and lawlessness placed third in the pollsterβs hierarchy of fears for the second year in a row in 2019. The return of mass repressions and a tighter political regime shared the sixth spot among Russiansβ biggest fears, while fear of death ranked 10th." https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/10/30/russians-fear-arbitrary-authorities-more-than-death-poll-says-a67962
@hushroom @xj9 it's like saying we can't use Mastodon because it requires "specialised software and trained people". It does, so what? We do both all the time. It's a poor excuse not an actual issue.
And "standard breeding techniques" took like 10k years to create modern dog breeds (and most of them with defects) and thousands of randomly mutated irradiated tomato samples to create the one we eat now.
And never created rice with vitamin A.
@hushroom @xj9 Bt brinjal was *designed* to be resistant to particular pest (FSB).
Trademarks are not patents. If you are a farmer you can buy the same herbicide under trade name of Roundup (and pay more) or chemically identical generic glyphosate (cheaper) produced by other companies since patents expired in 2000.
100% right and this is precisely how Bt brinjal or Golden Rice are developed http://www.isaaa.org/resources/publications/pocketk/35/default.asp
The only reason why part of the biotech market was initially taken over by US companies like Monsanto was because other companies did not even try to compete due to GM-phobia in their own countries.
This is now changing, mostly because Asian countries stopped listening to activists like Greenpeace or their own Vandana Shiva
Average gardeners won't feed a city. They won't even feed their own family unless the whole family works in the field for most of the year, leaving no time for creative jobs or education.
Not surprisingly, this is precisely how people lived in pre-industrial era with life expectancy of some 30 years.
> humans actually were doing efficient agriculture for centuries
It wasn't really too efficient if in 19th century people were still dying of hunger due to poor harvest or pest.
Part of the Green Revolution of 20th century was creation of high-yield crops, which allowed to increase yield from the same amount of arable ground tens of times.
It's not efficient agriculture either if people are getting blind in Asia due to vit A deficiency...
Now, even more amazingly, these "X-ray varieties" are *excluded* from EU GMO directive restrictions because they are considered "traditionally safe".
At the same time CRISPR varieties are considered "unsafe" and subject to absurd restrictions, that were never in place with the X-ray experiments in 70's.
Even though with CRISPR you know *precisely* what you add/remove/modify and with X-ray you don't.
WTF?
> what crop has CRISPR made safer? how?
I answered with a specific example.
They mention plants that you could buy in supermarkets for the last 3 decades or more. And they are considered safe even though they were produced by chaotic mutations induced with X-ray and Ξ³. Indeed, they have no known side effects as confirmed by millions of consumers over decades.
"One could react with a proposal to put also plants from induced mutations under strict safety regulations. This would make sense only if the mentioned 2543 varieties would have induced more frequently biosafety problems then varieties from cross breeding. However, we are not aware of any biosafety problem caused by an induced mutation of a released variety or by an induced translocation."
"It is unscientific to propose screening flanking DNA of 50βkbp at each side of the insertion, requiring discarding of plants that show any changes there, but simultaneously accepting plants with tens or hundreds or thousands of unknown but probably more dramatic DNA changes after irradiation or introgression."
"During the past seventy years, mutation breeding led to more than 2250 plant varieties (Maluszynski et al. [4]; Ahloowalia et al. [5]). 70% of these varieties were released as directly induced mutants, and the other 30% from crosses with induced mutants. The use of chemical treatments was relatively infrequent, but gamma rays were frequently used (64%), followed by X-rays (22%) (Ahloowalia et al. [5])." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2218926/
As explained before, CRISPR is not the only method of genetic modification known to humanity. It's the latest, most precise and definitely much safer than indiscriminate bombing with gamma rays or mutagens.
Add around 100k years with other methods of genetic manipulation in animals, plants and bacteria.
Everybody is eating these today even though the radiation-induced mutations were completely random in their effects and might have modified much more genes than just those intended.
Now, when we came up with a very precise surgical techniques like CRISPR that are safer than anything known before a bunch of undereducated activists or scientific crooks like Seralini are fighting them as "unnatural"...
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