be like:

β€” Mom, why is school and trains not working?
β€” It's the weather to blame!

> In the first half of 2021, coal shot up as the biggest contributor to Germany's electric grid, while wind power dropped to its lowest level since 2018. Officials say the weather is partly to blame.

m.dw.com/en/germany-coal-tops-

@kravietz its all fun and giggles as long as factories are working

@xue

They won't stop working - this is precisely why Germany has been continuously increasing its fossil gas import capabilities.

German politicians *do* realize the country can't run on renewables alone, *and* because the vocal minority wants nuclear shut down, the country *must* run on fossil fuels. This is literally what Merkel said in 2019 (see below).

@kravietz @xue mhh slightly have to disagree. germany did butcher their green energy the last years. the wind energy is on a low but not the problem to blame.

quitting nuclear power is in germany a majority

one of the german statistics is from (https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/196207/umfrage/meinung-zum-gebrauch-von-atomenergie-in-deutschland/)

it shows 5% are absolutly pro nuclear power, 16% more in favour, 36% more against and 40% strictly against. 3% have no opinion

stopping nuclear is politcally the popular move

it is problematic though to botcher nuclear power, wind energy and solar energy. the county can be run very well on renewable energy. solar energy

as a matter of fact solar energy is the cheapest energy to produce. though corrupt politicians did botcher it.

the colorful statistic shows cost to produce 1 kwh in cents

yellow is solar, dark blue is water, wind is light blue gray, green biogas, orange is nucular, brown coal brown, coal black and the last weird red/wine/whatever color is gas. solar is in 3 categoroes. small roofs, big roofs and not on the roof. so even putting solar energy on big roofs is cheaper than gas. but many politicians got bought by big coal and gas companies. well thats why they probably will not get reelected now



@khaosgrille @xue

So the argument "all would be fine if THEY just allowed us to install more wind and solar" is a fallacy. You simply have days and weeks, when there is very little wind and solar, and regardless of how much PV panels and wind turbines you install, they simply won't produce any energy.

Also "THEY" are German citizens who simply don't want vast areas of land turned into industrial landscape of massive PV and wind farms. These are *residential* protests that slowed down new RE.

@kravietz @xue but they are a small minority in germany. those parties who protected those have big problems in the current election. anyway the statistic u showed is not the day it is by hour. so yeah we need more ways to storage energy over the day

@khaosgrille @xue

> but they are a small minority in germany

There's opposition to new wind and PV farms everywhere - in Germany, France, UK, Norway, Sweden. There's nothing wrong with opposing replacing a forest with an industrial landscape, which only works 10-30% of time and then is damaged by the first strong wind.

@kravietz @xue also greenpeace sells natural gas yes. it makes 15% of their power mix. 85% is wind and solar energy. they plan to completly phase out of natural gas til 2027. dont see whats wrong with that
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@khaosgrille @xue

The fact that Greenpeace Energy is selling fossil gas *and* at the same is lobbying to make it the largest source of energy in Germany is hypocrisy and obvious conflict of interest.

Did you know they - so a company selling fossil gas - sued European Commission over Hinkley Point C in the UK, over alleged competition as they perceived the price of energy from nuclear to be too cheap?

A fossil gas company, suing a low-carbon nuclear, and calling themselves "green" πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

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@kravietz @xue i really dont see the problem. :shrug:

a 85% green energy +15% fossil gas is fine especially if the fossil gas usage is constantly shrinking

@khaosgrille

@xue

The problem, as seen on electricitymap.org

There are at least three new fossil gas plants in progress in Germany.

One new coal plant.

Coal and gas to stay until 2038 (that's what they say now).

Nuclear shut down by 2022.

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