Because, you know, theirs are dissidents; ours are criminals.

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Morales back in #Bolivia after plane drama over Snowden

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Fury over “state piracy” as West weighs action against #Belarus

reuters.com/world/europe/fury-

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Was anyone arrested on the Morales flight? 🤔

@kravietz

Mr Anyone, as you refer to him, was not on board. Else he'd be keeping company with Mr #Assange.

@kravietz

Let's be clear, I do not condone the action, especially as a former commercial pilot myself.

It's the hypocrisy of the reactions that gets in my tits though.

@0

So what's a non-hypocritical reaction to what happened in Minsk?

1) "doesn't matter because in 2013 another country did something remotely similar"

2) "it was bad, but what about 2013"

3) other options? 🤔

@kravietz @0
There is a huge difference.
Do you know what international law is?
Have you heard about diplomatic immunity?
Try to imagine that Belarus forces to land presidential plane of some of American puppets.
""The president has been kidnapped by imperialism, and he is being held in Europe," he said in a televised address late Tuesday night. The vice president called for workers worldwide to protest "this act of imperial arrogance."

@kravietz
Unfortunately the answer is sad.
They should stand in front of the people and admit that they are hypocrites and behave worse than Lukashenko.
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@kravietz
You think that Belarus is bad?
Polish prime minister yells so loud. Poland is #EU member, Polish police beats young people and women on the streets, arrests them at 6 AM.
People are beaten at police stations and people die at police stations.
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@Br0m3x

How exactly the fact that authorities in country X beat protesting women justify the forced landing of plane by country?

Did you for example consider a possibility that actions of *both* countries could be wrong? Or you're stuck in tribal thinking where if X is wrong then Y must be right? 🤔

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@kravietz
Do I really have to spell it out? Not sure if you're taking the piss here.

Once you've cast your stone, there is no non-hypocritical reaction (other than “ah you've got us there lad” which obviously nobody is going to say in public). That is the whole point I'm making.

@0

I didn't down Evo Morales plane. Can I say what Lukashenka did was wrong? 🤔

@0

> ah you've got us there lad

Define "you" and "us". How does actions of France in 2013 justify actions of Belarus in 2021? Does it mean that nobody in France can today condemn arrest of Protasevich? Nobody in EU?

Are people in Belarus allowed to condemn this arrest? In Russia?

Where's the boundary of who can condemn it - or not - per your tribal logic?

@0 The case of Morales was at least dubious. Someone might have used a legitimate emergency landing as an opportunity, but it wasn't really comparable with what Belarus did.

washingtonpost.com/news/worldv

This is what Morales pilots said:

@kravietz

The “legitimate emergency” was created by denying overflight by the countries ahead in its path, thereby leaving the aeroplane without anywhere sensible to go and unable to reach its intended refuelling stop in the canary islands. They could do that because as a State flight, it's not covered by the first freedom of the air. A diversion is always a bit less unsightly than an interception and gives some tenuous semblance of deniability that can be fed to the gullible and the ignorant.

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