@shmibs @lain @mithrandir @kravietz
Whatever it is, you want something that scales up to a power station and down to a cell phone. That way you get billions of $ of R&D focused on one problem.
PCs (converted to servers) beat mainframes
PV and Batteries will beat dams.

@cjd @shmibs @lain @mithrandir @kravietz you know you don't need to apply the same solution to every problem, right?

Pumped reservoirs are the cleanest, easiest power storage we have for large scales, doesn't matter that you can't put it in your phone.

@sapphire @lain @cjd @mithrandir @shmibs

They are, but they have just one problem - they use *massive* amounts of land, require a very specific geology and nobody wants them anywhere close.

When I say "massive" I mean surface power density of 0.14 W/m2 of land used, as compared to 240 W/m2 for nuclear power for example.

So if a nuclear power plant occupies a hectare for some power output, you will need 1714 hectares for equivalent hydro plant.

@kravietz @lain @cjd @mithrandir @shmibs Sure, but unlike a nuclear power plant, a reservoir is multipurpose, it serves as a drinking water reservoir and recreational area.
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Living in Europe I don't see many neighbourhoods that would happily get flooded for another pumped storage plant even if promised free boat trips afterwards.

In some low population density countries like Sweden or Chile hydro certainly is a thing, but they've used whatever land was available already in 20th century.

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