@michiel @laufi

Majority of the "environmental" activism organisations sadly joined an anti-scientific movement initiated primarily by Jeremy Rifkin ages ago, probably because it sold better.

This is why you have Greenpeace hiring Seralini for GMO reports and Greenpeace Energy in Germany selling fossil gas and preferring it over nuclear against all available scientific evidence, including IPCC πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

@kravietz
I'm sorry, but this statement is as unscientific as you claim activists to be. Instead of disproving the precise claims of these people you accuse them of being related to a movement (which you did not prove btw). Even if it is like you say, this does not mean their claims are wrong (logical fallacy of guilt by association).

Aside from that: By directly providing sources for your claims in context, you can make a focused discussion easier.
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> By directly providing sources

I did! There's a whole chapter on this subject in the "Whole Earth Discipline" book I linked, describing in great detail the origins of anti-nuclear and anti-GMO phobias among some environmentalists.

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@kravietz
Yeah, that's exactly what I was suggesting. :)
Claim -> Source (and ideally details on where to look inside the document, as this speeds up the process of reading up)
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