@cjd

If you would like to actually learn something new, with solid scientific base, rather than just repeating FUD cliches invented at Greenpeace 30 years ago I recommend "Whole Earth Discipline" (2010) by Stewart Brand

libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=3

@kravietz
It's a bit rich linking me a GMO marketing blog and then saying Actually Learn Something...

There is this persistent idea that we need a centrally planned top-down solution to save the world, and I think part of it's appeal is that it allows people to believe that they're the intellectual elite.

20th century is littered with examples of such well meaning projects which all went awry (Seeing like a State - James C. Scott), but people like to believe...

@cjd

> we need a centrally planned top-down

Your personal straw-man? Who said anything about "centrally planned"?

Farmers in India have 60% of their crops eaten by pest and have to flood it with pesticides to even collect something.

They ask smart guy on local uni to come up with a pest-resistant crop.

The university does it, everyone is happy.

Oh, apart from Greenpeace who prefers (sitting in their A/C office in NY) to starve, as "there's generally too many people".

@kravietz
Ok so you an I are aligned in being strongly against the "there are too many people" motherf****ers. I myself don't have strong enough words for them.

Now problem with GMO crops is it's kind of like virus research, if all goes well then everything is great. If something goes wrong then result could look like COVID-19. We need to make progress on both fronts but we also need to be extremely careful not to blow the world up doing it.

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@cjd

This is precisely why I recommended "Whole Earth Discipline" in the very beginning, as it discusses all these misconceptions and fallacies in great detail, with solid scientific base, as anything else in the book. Any further discussion can be more efficiently replacing by you just scanning through chapters 5-6 of the book.

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