If I want to put up a tip-jar of sorts for folx to toss me a few coins for the various #coding / creative related things I do, what services would you recommend?

Especially interested in hearing stories from people who have actually used multiple.

So, if you have any #recommendations for or against things like #KoFi, #BuyMeACoffee, #PayPal, #Liberapay, #Patreon, etc, please let me know. :)

@FiXato
This is something @humanetech and I intend to research in some detail this year. Please let us know what you find out.

@strypey @FiXato

At the moment I maintain this #delightful list, where many candidates are waiting for inclusion in an issue. If you find any more it would be wonderful if you could add..

https://codeberg.org/teaserbot-labs/delightful-funding/issues/1

@humanetech @FiXato @strypey The dirt on #Liberapay, #Opencollective, & #Patreon has been collected here (w/a focus on LP): https://codeberg.org/swiso/website/issues/141 The dirt on #PayPal is here: https://git.disroot.org/cyberMonk/liberethos_paradigm/src/branch/master/rap_sheets/paypal.md /cc @espen @kravietz

@koherecoWatchdog

I use LiberaPay and I don't blame devs for their technology choices

@humanetech @FiXato @strypey @espen

@kravietz @espen @strypey @FiXato @humanetech Why wouldn't you hold #Liberapay accountable for their choices, if not pure & simple irrational bias?

@koherecoWatchdog @espen @strypey @FiXato @humanetech

Because they provide an useful and needed service for the community. As such, they should be in the first place supported rather than shamed & blamed. As they themselves live from donations, the latter can only drive people away from them, and we will again end up with PayPal & friends as the only alternative.

@kravietz @humanetech @FiXato @strypey @espen It's unacceptable that #Liberapay has made all the poorest decisions. They're a steamy pile of shit that baits users to use the most privacy-abusing facilities. They should be shamed until they get it right. You can avoid all that garbage by accepting checks in the US & IBAN wires outside the US, & crypto currency or villages.io for cross-border txns.

@koherecoWatchdog @humanetech @FiXato @strypey @espen

> Accepting checks

WTF? You mean the tiny paper forms as sometimes seen in 80's movies? So you are suggesting a developer should expose their postal address to receive a letters with a check for $5, then take it to the bank... and this is good for privacy?

@kravietz @espen @strypey @FiXato @humanetech Checks can be paper or electronic. And paper checks don't require an address (search "poste restante")

@koherecoWatchdog @espen @strypey @FiXato @humanetech

> And paper checks don't require an address

Any more 19th century ideas for sending money?

On the bridght side, I'm sure this would be a feature most welcome by Ted Kaczynski living in an off-grid trailer in a desert.

@kravietz @humanetech @FiXato @strypey @espen checks are 21st century in the US. American millenials are using "Zelle", which is still a check (an electronic check).

@koherecoWatchdog @humanetech @FiXato @strypey @espen

I get it. So a bank in US came up with a new product called "Zelle" which is "a check" (you) that is "not a check" (US Bank) and it's privacy-friendly because it relies on US banking system which is built on top of Amazon, Akamai, CloudFlare and other privacy friendly tech.

@kravietz @espen @strypey @FiXato @humanetech i wouldn't use zelle myself, but considering your demand to be modern and whatever issue you have with paper checks, zelle is for you. But putting #PayPal in the loop is a stupid answer b/c to avoid the donee from seeing who you are, PayPal tells 600+ companies about your txn

@koherecoWatchdog @espen @strypey @FiXato @humanetech

> But putting #PayPal in the loop

Exactly. It's you who is pushing people into the hands of PayPal by throwing shit at LiberaPay.

> whatever issue you have with paper checks

Man, what are you even doing on Mastodon? You should be posting hand-written notes on lamp posts in your area and request people drop their checks into your PO box.

@kravietz @humanetech @FiXato @strypey @espen #LiberaPay *facilitates* PayPal. That's on you, not me. I'm condemning both of them.

@koherecoWatchdog @humanetech @FiXato @strypey @espen

I've never used PayPal with LiberaPay. I support a dozen of projects and have a direct debit set for all of them from my GBP and EUR account.

If some donors prefer PayPal, it's their preference and LiberaPay helps developers get paid this way.

@kravietz @espen @strypey @FiXato @humanetech you don't have to use PayPal to support PayPal. You support PayPal by supporting LiberaPay.

@humanetech @FiXato @strypey @espen @kravietz BTW, the debit card Liberapay accepts is evil too. It's not a Discovercard/JBC/unionpay card.. it's visa, m/c, or amex, which the article addresses

@koherecoWatchdog @humanetech @FiXato @strypey @espen

You are quite uneducated in the topic, and yet speaking from a position of authority.

DIRECT DEBIT is not the same as DEBIT CARD.

Direct debit is when a bank directly charges your account without any card processors.

I appreciate it may take another 50 years for that to appear in the US...