being mixed-race in america is a fucking trip because having passing privilege really does clue you in when you're young to how much 'whiteness' is a conferred attribute that can be revoked at any moment
or, to put it another way, 'white' is not a race, in the sense that multiple ethnically-caucasian subgroups were NOT considered 'white' until relatively recent history, but it is -about- race, in the sense that it is about what one must be and do to not have their race be used to discredit them
Irish people weren't considered 'white' until the 1930s. Italians weren't white until the mid-late 1950s. White is not an actual ethnic group, so much as this big umbrella of 'normal' that is used for the consolidation of cultural capital into a single bloc; because whiteness can't be intrinsic, it maintains its authority instead by the threat of discommendation FROM whiteness; just look at how America treats 'white trash' culturally
Scientifically this is utter bullshit either. Everyone in Europe, Western or whatever else, is quite a mix of ethnicities, as seen in DNA testing. Especially in Europe, which had thousands of people moving there and back over centuries and, naturally exchanging genetic material all the time. You can speak of a dominant haplogroups in case of most people in Europe, but any concept of "racial purity" is no different from "pure proletarians" in Marxist utopia I'm afraid.
Each of which is a mix too. Apart from some very closed or isolated ethic groups there are no "pure" ethnicities in the world. The former on the other hand frequently suffer from all kinds of genetic diseases as result of inbreeding. The very point of evolution is elimination of defects by gene mixing, and humanity has been practicising this happily for millenia.
These are phenotypes, so how people look like. You can have similar phenotypes from different haplogroups. In Europe you can find a whole range of these, from H to N, R, U etc. None of them have hard borders, they can be only described in terms of probability distribution.
You have blonde blue-eyed Aryan ubermensch with both H and R1a mtDNA. And possibly others. So what?
I didn't claim haplogroups don't cluster, quite the opposite - I wrote there are some dominant haplogroups everywhere. But where's that utopian race purity if you get at most 40% in the population (map) and perhaps at most 70-80% per individual?
No, Lewontin made a statistically incorrect conclusion of correct data. Critics demonstrated an existing *correlation* of specific genes in population and geographic clusters, and it's fine, and that's what DNA testing shows. Nobody however demonstrated that they are "principally homogeneous within and heterogeneous between, contrasting groups", which is the primary postulate of race theory.
LOL you should've added "because I say so" to make your argument complete 😂 Clearly, truth is the last thing you're after here...
Historical viewpoint accepted that the Sun was circulating around Earth because this is what people saw and it was hard to challenge that obvious observation.
@TradeMinister @amerika @hystericempress
But there's nothing empirical to demonstrate "racial differences" as you claim. What we see out with our eyes are phenotypical differences that originate from where specific groups lived in the past and nothing else. The same and much deeper differences do exist within populations occupying specific territory that you prefer to call a "race". If you want to show differences, just go and show them in scientific way, not some metaphysical BS.
@amerika @TradeMinister @hystericempress
Yes, it's much better logic to just muddy waters with "we can't prove it but it's true" style of argument. Classic Marxist approach, you truly mastered it! 👍
They don't repeat always but as a statistical phenomenon, specifically because the whole point of sexual reproduction is mixing of genes. The concept of racial purity is simply anti -biological and could be justified by pre-scientific ignorance but in 2020 this argument is long gone.
@TradeMinister @amerika @hystericempress
Just to remind you, the pioneers of racial theory always attempted to make it a hard science, starting from US and European eugenicists, inventing pseudo-sciences such as phrenology. So if you're now running away from science towards some kind of "this can't be proven scientifically but I know it's true" then it's a pretty good sign that you aren't really confident about this BS.
You'd be on much safer grounds from scientific point of view if you just stuck to an argument that races are purely cultural phenomenon. This cannot be easily disproved and you can argue on this ad nauseam. And you'd be on a familiar ground with grievance studies and other postmodernist pseudo-science 😃
