The 5g conspiracy craziness are but the latest example showing that a civilization's technological progress is hard-limited at any given time by the quality of education a median member of the society has received.
@rysiek My concern is with legitimate debate ceding the spotlight to outrageous
conspiracies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5G#Political_opposition
With regards to health specifically there is this public letter from hundreds of real doctors and other scientists:
https://www.5gappeal.eu/signatories-to-scientists-5g-appeal/
Now, if the authors of that appeal are linking a (legitimate) scientific article about negative impact of microwave radar on human health in the context of 5G, this clearly demonstrates that they have no idea what they're talking about.
A typical radar has power measured in thousands of Watts. A microwave ovens are 800-900 Watts. A typical 5G cell is 250 milliWatts. A typical WiFi is 20 milliWatts.
@kravietz
If you say that we need to live in a cave 100m underground to avoid it, why are #radiation levels set 70 times lower in some countries than others?
How does this fit in with schools in Europe removing #WiFi to avoid excessive #EMF?
Agree with the #privacy concerns.
There's #gaslighting and charming #advertising aimed at building consent for #5G.
#LocalCouncils are disempowered in #Australia yet where's the proof of #publicSafety?
@mplammers @rysiek
So the closer you are to the base station, the less power your device needs to transmit data or voice. The old analog mobile phones were the worst because base stations were like 30 km from each other but the trend is now to build more and more stations so they're closer to people. 5G tries to build even more dense network than 4G which will result in even more power needed for communication.
@kravietz @mplammers @rysiek
@kravietz
It's very interesting that #Brazil and #Iran are points of intense radiation. Are they at opposite ends of the #earth (ie. could there be a #magnetic aspect to this) or is it purely #geology? If so, maybe the govts in those places need to explore #faraday cage-like systems for #housing as a means of basic #shelter to assess whether there's a #publicHealth benefit?
Maybe we need more #transparency around radiation generally. :)
A measuring device for every houshold might be good place to start.
> or is it purely geology
In these two specific cases it's purely geology but magnetic field of Earth stops a lot of cosmic radiation, so altitude and latitude also matter a lot. On the poles you got more radiation, high in the mountains you get more than on sea-level, in plane even more, but it still has zero biological effect at these doses. If you're interested, this is probably the most informative lecture:
https://scitech.video/videos/watch/60a7b2c5-739b-40ac-8ab1-009d1aa653cd
> need to explore faraday cage-like systems
There's no need for that simply because it still has no biological effect on the residents. People have been living there with this radiation for thousands of years. There is *some* scientific evidence that background radiation actually has beneficial effect on human body (which would be logical because we evolved with it). In some countries people actually do "radon bathes", one of them Germany which is rather ironic.
> Maybe we need more transparency around radiation generally
There are few topics in the world that are better studied and documented than radiation, specifically due to the widespread fears around it. The problem is that few people wants to learn anything about it because it's easier to just be scared.
This worldwide radiation monitor network is probably the best I've seen
@kravietz
We'll check out these resources.
Good to converse with you today.
@mplammers @rysiek
> Do you mean "even less energy"
Precisely, I reworded the paragraph and forgot to change. Thanks for pointing this out.
The latter - regulation and monopolies - are the biggest obstacle to mesh networks in the UK - and I've seen that in both my attempts to build one locally and also even in case of low-power small-bandwidth networks like LoRAWAN.
People won't engage into mesh networks because they are scared to even route someone else's ping packed due to alleged restrictions of anti-terrorism laws. And broadband and LTE absolutely suck in the UK in terms of both bandwidth and price.
@kravietz
If you know anyone who still thinks the threat of terrorism was real. Direct them to a series called The Century of the Self (#BBC (before they turned to mush), 2002).
It details how groups are manipulated by triggering subconscious #desires and #fears. How its refined and automated over the past century to generate consent for #imperialWars. ;)
The first 15 minutes are a must:
https://invidio.us/watch?v=DnPmg0R1M04
There's much more where that came from.
@kravietz
Nice to talk to you.
Do you mean "even less energy" not "even more energy"? Because that last loint contradicted your point
We're supporters of #meshNetworking (for #bitcoin/#crypto) combined with #fibreToTheHome and even #satelliteTransmission. So we are not afraid of radiation, but the standards are a concern to us without proper #publicDiscourse. Also who controls the #broadcasting systems? An accountable govt or private interests?
#meshnet
@mplammers @rysiek