'Finnish Minister: EU Needs to Establish Own OS, Web Browser':
nytimes.com/aponline/2020/02/2

... or just use choose a distro of GNU/Linux and Firefox.

@strypey Or just support the existing ones. If the "establish" or "choose" on it will just get something that is averaged for everyone.

@strypey

Let's say they choose Ubuntu or whatever else - the distro has its important place, but it not best for all purposes.

A huge public sector project forking it will result in plenty of lobbying to implement this, then that and feature creep, until it's not really usable for anything.

The minister is also missing the point: we don't depend on anyone in terms of software, we're pretty good in terms of software. It's the hardware that we have huge dependency on.

@kravietz
> It's the hardware that we have huge dependency on.

I agree. Antitrust action to prevent the major US vendors (Microsoft, Apple, Google, Amazon) dominating the OEM market would help a lot, just as the legal actions that limited Microsoft's ability to force Windows users to surf the web with Internet Exploiter made space for the emergence of Firefox and other replacements.

@strypey

At the same time EU needs to be very careful not to end up with something like "we build our own hardware just to build out own hardware", like Russia did with their Elbrus family of processors that are ~10 years behind the state of the art. They at least found their niche in the military sector.

Or for that matter, like EU did in 2000's when it spent millions on Quaero search engine whose main purpose was to be anti-Google en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaero

@kravietz #Quaero was not an inherently bad idea. A project like that could produce many useful fruits if there were strings attached to the funding that obliged all code and documentation to be developed in the open, under libre licenses. Developing search technology targeted at what might serve the #PublicInterest in 10-20 years time, would be a better brief than building a Euro Goggle clone. Kind of like what #NlNet are doing now:
nlnet.nl/discovery/

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