‹Women workers, take up your rifles!›

Bolshevik poster from 1917.

@kravietz nasty, meanwhile the reality is that soviets did huge amount of work to advance women's rights and create gender equality. Russia still has the highest number of women in high power positions in the world because of that grantthornton.global/globalass

@yogthos Also top rate of suicides, abortions, divorces and domestic violence, so?

@kravietz if your answer to gender equality is "so?", don't really know what else to tell you. Also, last I checked highest suicide rates were in Nordic countries, meanwhile divorce rates simply indicate egalitarianism, I'd like to see the citation for the top domestic violence though. That's a big news to me.

@yogthos Domestic violence - many Russian-language sources, for example nasiliu.net/o-domashnem-nasili

Because with the recent law changes which stopped classifying domestic violence as a crime, majority of non-lethal cases of violence are not even reported.

Comparison of lethal cases shows 12-14'000 women killed annually as result of domestic violence in Russia. Compare that to 18'000 in USA and normalize by population (144 vs 350m) and you get 5 cases per 100k in USA versus 12.5 in Russia.

@kravietz I thought we were discussing USSR though?

In fact, if you look at any metrics, things got worse across the board since the transition to capitalism.

@yogthos I doubt you can have find any such statistics from USSR other than enthusiastically positive :D

But it's rather unlikely that the number of domestic violence cases has dramatically increased in just one day after fall of USSR. Domestic violence is based on people's values, attitudes, alcohol consumption and most importantly the attitude of their neighours and relatives.

@kravietz having lived through the collapse, I can very much tell you that attitudes change pretty quickly when people lose their stable living conditions.

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@yogthos As it comes to domestic violence - patriarchal culture always dominated in the Soviet Union maybe except for the first few "revolutionary" decades.

Central Commitee was always old, overweight men.

Earlier, Stalin's attitude was entirely utilitarian - when he needed it, he allowed abortion. When he needed - he banned it.

@kravietz yet women were in many high positions in soviet union, and by any measure the society was much more equal in terms of gender roles than pretty much anywhere in the West.

And I remember this from personal experience as well. It was completely normal for men and women to work together in pretty much every sector, and for women to be in positions of power.

The study I linked earlier shows the effects of that even to this day.

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