What are your personal favorites, or recommended favorite alternatives to Google Photos.

Personally, I use my Nextcloud to store my photos, but not everyone has their own server.

I want suggestions for the masses!

@danarel if you find some good alternatives let me know, I haven't found *any* decent photo managers. Nextcloud seems like the best option out there but yeah, requires a server.

Personally I sync to my NAS and computers with Resilio Sync, and I have my family members do the same.

In general though, all I can really say is iCloud seems fine for most people. If you're on Android without a custom ROM (like the "masses" will be) tbh you've already made pretty poor privacy decisions.

@jonah maybe something like boxcryptator or cryptonator with iCloud would be good.

@danarel the problem is people aren’t going to use anything that isn’t automatic, and isn’t on their phones. My guess would be it would be easier to get people to buy a VPS with Nextcloud pre-installed even, than get them to use something like those tools.

@jonah that’s probably true. Probably have more luck lobbying Apple to better encrypt iCloud than to get people to use multiple apps to encrypt their files.

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@danarel tbh I’m sure that’s the end goal for Apple anyways. They’re betting a lot of resources on on-device AI while everyone else is focused on cloud-processing, so retaining access to data doesn’t make much sense.

I think the problem for Apple is E2EE isn’t fantastic for backup services like Photos where the devices are keys, in case they’re lost/destroyed. And Apple seems to be allergic to the notion of recovery keys unfortunately, probably for UX-related reasons 🤷‍♂️

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