@ghostofphase @jonah I'm currently using Mullvad

@ghostofphase
I have, only the free service though. A friend pays for it (I convices him hehe) and is ableto watch netflix successfully
@jonah @pkntl

Btw: @protonvpn

@thoughtcrime @jonah I thought it was but searching for those two keywords nothing specific comes up. I'm beginning to doubt that it's complete e2ee

@pkntl
I think it is not, it only lets you PGP encrypt easily. On the other hand, #protonmail encrypts your mail with a key they dont have (of course they recieve it in a different way, but they at least encrypt it)
@jonah

@thoughtcrime @pkntl to be fair Protonmail is really only E2EE with other Protonmail users, who aren't numerous. PGP is the best solution for email E2EE, and that's a provider agnostic solution.

@jonah
I agree, thats why I prefer #protonmail to #tutanota, their e2e implememtation is pgp-compatible (its pgp actually) whereas tuta's isnt
@pkntl

@thoughtcrime interesting, wasn't aware of that. At the end of the day it really just depends on your threat model I suppose. Personally I would probably just go self-hosted for everything and use client-side encryption (PGP) rather than trust some closed-source solution (Protonmail) to do it for me. But my privacy needs don't require anonymity (which I feel are often conflated). If you're looking to hide your identity but need to accept clearnet emails, Protonmail seems like the best bet.