Ok, #ProtonMail and IP logging.

I'm genuinely surprised at the people who yell all day that ProtonMail has betrayed them, that it can no longer be trusted.

Um, what the fuck were you hoping for? That the company would shut down or go to jail because you have a $5 subscription?

Be a little more realistic.

You have to protect yourself comprehensively, at all levels, use PGP/GPG and other FOSS tools wherever possible, strong passwords, etc.

@TheFuzzStone

Their privacy policy says:

> By default, we do not keep any IP logs which can be linked to your anonymous email account

And then they shared not only the IP but also fingerprint of the browser.

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@kravietz, after being forced by the court, they began to do logging. These are their words, and whether to believe them or not is up to everyone.

In general, nothing strange or surprising for me.

@TheFuzzStone

Oh yes, I wrote that already back in 2014 after merely reading their privacy policy

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I'm just disgusted by the disparity between marketing ("WE LOG NO IP") and the legal reality they're living in. Not telling customers "yes, we can be forced to reveal your IP even if we're in Switzerland" is simply dishonest.

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@kravietz @TheFuzzStone what’s the alternative, tutanota? I can’t host my own, and when I signed up a few years back they seemed promising. I was a primary gmail user before then so I guess they’re a stepping stone…

@gritnot @TheFuzzStone

I would just stick to ProtonMail. Boycott is not the only way to express disagreement with company's policy or marketing.

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