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@darylsun Realistically, you are unlikely to ever do better than the insane security structure/teams behind the big boys like Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, etc. If your threat model is nation states, then okay, having your data in the cloud can be scary. It for most people, it’s far better than trying to self-host. And if your threat model is nation states you kinda need your own nation-state’s OPSEC support team or you’re already boned.

@darylsun There are some safe ways to do cloud things though. Veracrypt container inside Dropbox is one example, or hosting files for yourself in keybase.io. Using ProtonMail or similar for email. Chatting with Signal, etc. You may not be able to trust all providers, but you can trust some more than others and you always trust the math behind good crypto in audited environments.

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