Someone from Cisco went on stage to propose weakening TLS 1.3 for "network-based security solutions" (enterprise spyware).

There was a long line at the mic of people pushing back on it... I almost felt bad for the poor speaker 🙂

tools.ietf.org/html/draft-camw

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@codewiz Pretty sure corporate middleboxes aren't going away, one way or another -- enterprises don't like the idea of all the traffic entering and exiting their networks going opaque.

@digicana Yes, but its seems they will have to suck it up; TLS 1.3 has already been rolled out on browsers and web servers.

I'm currently using it with mstdn.io, see?

@digicana In the QUIC working group, there was a session on routers trying to detect QUIC traffic to "optimize" it. There were various competing proposals to discourage the "lazy implementations" and the "hard working implementations" 😂

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