Sorry for the Dutch article, but it appears that more and more companies in the Netherlands are experimenting with a 4 day workweek for the same pay! Hopefully this will become the new normal. 🙌
I don't think I can ever go back to working 5 days a week. It's not worth it.
What's also interesting is the role of women in this. Currently 73.8% of Dutch women work parttime, versus 23% of men. Traditionally because gov policy motivated women to stay home with the kids. Nowadays however, a lot of childless/childfree women choose to work parttime. Myself and all my friends included.
The government is crying out to get women to work 40 hours (“think of the economy!”), but why would they. Instead I've seen many men - especially fathers - decrease their hours too. 🥳
@Gina eh its just polical correctness these days. Its like those "women quotas". Basically forcing people to hire a women for the sake of having more women instead of choosing the best person for the job. If i was a women i would actually be angery about it as it completely ruins the whole point: getting women treated equally to men and the other way around.
@blacklight447 @Gina It's so much more than political correctness! People like me would love to have equal chances, but sometimes we are not even considered for a techy job. That will not improve by just a change of language (political correctness) but also by real changes like the ones Gina proposed.
Equal chances > equal treatment (that's basically classical liberalism, equality of opportunity)
@xdm @Gina but doesn't getting chosen by law instead of being chosen because your the best person for the job kinda defeat the purpose? Because from how i currently understand it, you want to be treated equally, and get chosen for your qualities, and not your sex/gender. If your chosen because of a law like this, then your chosen only because your a women, and not because of your qualities. You see why its a bit confusing to understand it for me?
@blacklight447 @xdm in order for that to work we would first have to reach a baseline of equality. Right now the best person for the job isn't being chosen, otherwise we would have had more women in positions of power.
This means that yes, there need so be some discriminating policies such as quota to reach equality in the future. Hopefully in the future this won't be necessary anymore.
@blacklight447 @Gina I understand but you are focused on one measurement (quotas), I consider a whole bandwidth of indirect measurement to be more effective, e.g. flexible change between part/full-time, ability to get the same job after baby break etc.
Right now, women face a lot more obstacles than men, and I don't feel bad if a law will treat me a bit better *in one regard* than men once tbh. Again, it's about same chances, not same treatment (which is impossible and not fair either).