@supernova it is snake oil, once it leaves your device, its out of your controll, how do you know the other party uses a modifed client that doesnt delete the message or exports everything, how do we know the other party hasnt made a screenshot or taken a picture of the message? Ephermal messages should only be used for data hygiene on your own device, if you cannot trust the other party, ephermal messages wont help you.