What is the best rom for a Pixel phone? I can't decide between Lineage, Copperhead, and Graphene...

@ben_dw GrapheneOS 100% if you're looking for security and privacy. You can't root it or install an app store (well you can install F-Droid but you can't give it system-level access to auto-update) but IMO those are good things, just a bit less convenient.

If you're only looking to escape Google and actual security is less of a concern for you Lineage is probably fine, and a lot more customizable, if you're into Android mods.

@jonah
Fair! Should I be concerned that the Pixel 1 won't get security updated after October 2019!

@ben_dw Yeah. Well, they'll probably(?) extend it past Oct'19 but if it were up to me I'd jump to a Pixel 3 or 3a by then, or perhaps a 4 depending on release date. The Pixel 3/3a is significantly more secure than the 2 or 1 though FYI.

@jonah
In layman terms, what is the security difference between lineage and Graphene and the pixel 1/3?

@ben_dw I just responded re Lineage in another thread, but tl;dr: shady stuff going on with their “security patch levels”, I’m not convinced they’ve put in any effort towards security. Graphene is specifically security-focused and has a number of security improvements over even normal AOSP (that he’s also trying to merge back in to upstream FWIW) like device auditing and hardened memory allocation.

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@jonah I appreciate your time answering so much! This makes sense and I definitely will go with Graphene now. Where is this lineage thread, I'd be curious to read it!

@ben_dw I just meant my reply to supernova (social.privacytools.io/@jonah/) you probably read it.

If you're interested in learning more though I'd definitely join the GrapheneOS IRC channel on Freenode (:privacytools.io on Matrix), they're usually around to answer questions about what makes Graphene more secure.

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