I see a significant presence of postmodernism in discussions with relatives and friends:

- But they have their own arguments, you can't argue with them!
- They are wrong, objectively
- But there's no objective truth!
- Let's say he's racing at 160 km/h across the town and hits a building, he's dead, objectively
- But what if he doesn't care?
- If he doesn't care, he's still objectively dead

@kravietz sounds to me like your friends just don't want to be wrong and can't take a stance and argue it πŸ˜…

@Wetrix I believe that's more of an unwillingness to engage in disputes in general, as disagreement generally may have a personal touch, if you consider it personal. The idea that "let everyone have their own truth" is a kind of defensive mechanism here.

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@kravietz will it's quite simple, a debate is a good discussion with opposing views. An argument is the same thing but it becomes personal, which it never should.

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