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So I would like some opinions, from my fellow revered privacy friends 😊🔏

I'm not sure which vpn to go with.

I'm leaning heavily toward squirrel vpn, it's a p2p, decentralized vpn (site here)

squirrelvpn.com/

Or with Mozilla vpn. I get good speeds on squirrel, and it seems inherently safer.

Thoughts?

@Wetrix Not revered but I'll still add my input if that's alright. SquirrelVPN looks okay at first glance but I'd be extremely wary. They're an extremely new service from what I found, I don't see much to substantiate some of their claims, they don't make their payment methods publically available until you make an account and go to purchase a package from what I can see, and last thing if you search for SquirrelVPN - their official website has some Chinese looking characters in the title.

1/4

This means they could have some ties to Chinese organizations, that said I couldn't find any substantial evidence to support that. Mozilla's VPN service is just rebranded, marked up, and (I've heard from some people) less reliable Mullvad. If you're looking for a trustworthy VPN service my best recommendations are Mullvad and IVPN, they're the only two VPN companies that I would actually put my trust in if I actually trusted VPNs or their idea.

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Really you might not need a VPN though and something like For might be a way better bet. By design VPNs are honeypots, if you're looking for privacy or anonymity, then Tor is what you're looking for, if you're getting fooled by thinking your data will get stolen on public WiFi and you need a VPN providers encryption, you don't.

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HTTPS already encrypts all of your traffic, therefore not only securing your details on public networks, but also hiding the content of the websites you visit from your ISP, only revealing to them the beginning of the URL (i.e. your ISP will see YouTube.com instead of YouTube.com/watch?=jsPkwhYfaN ).

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@Wetrix squirrel VPN sounds like a scam. 99% of blockchain startups are scams.

Mozilla has the name recognition.

I personally use Mullvad and they're great.

@Wetrix
What is your objective? If it's to avoid ISP or state censorship then use Tor.

If it's to avoid BitTorrent lawsuits, use IP blocklists and BitTorrent encryption.

Any other reason - set up your own Wireguard endpoint at a cloud provider.

Otherwise VPN is just giving away control over your traffic from one entity (ISP) to another, even less trusted (VPN operator).

@kravietz @Wetrix generally I agree with you.

But why do you consider VPN operator as less trusted than ISP? At least VPN operator knows much less about me than ISP which is literally has my home address and personal data.

In case of Russia (where I live) ISP could also easily send some reports about visited IP sites to our glorious FSB. Sure, VPN operator could do this to, but less likely, doesn't it?
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